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Old 09-30-2008, 08:50 PM
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The Amish population is growing. I know of one group here in Maine that builds barns, sheds and houses. They're well respected for their craftsmanship and fair trade. They are thrifty hardworking people.
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Old 09-30-2008, 10:09 PM
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Oh my goodness, Alice mentions Jesus and people lose their panties. She was responding to a quote and Jesus happened to be part of her answer - SO WHAT. Everytime someone mentions Jesus or God, people get all angry.

Please don't talk about puppy mills anymore - UNLESS we move this to the Pet Forum

First off... no one got their panties in a twist over the mentions of those words. And bringing up the way many Amish earn a living has everything to do with how they're handling the economy.
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Old 10-01-2008, 07:52 AM
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First off... no one got their panties in a twist over the mentions of those words. And bringing up the way many Amish earn a living has everything to do with how they're handling the economy.
And Alice's quote was appropriate for what she was responding to
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Well, according to People Magazine, the Amish are the largest breeders of dogs for sale to pet stores (puppy mills). These holy people, who seem to look down their noses at everyone who is not Amish, don't seem to have a problem with being cruel to their animals. Maybe they're relying on sales to pet stores?
Not sure where you are getting the latter info. Have you ever even met anyone who is Amish? Conversed with them? Gotten to know them? I've happened to meet several Amish people, even been in one of their homes. Naturally, I can't speak for all of them but the people I have met do not think they are better than everyone else who is not Amish and they are certainly not cruel to their animals. They are aware of the fact that their very livelihood depends a lot on their animals. An animal in the care of the Amish would be treated extremely well compared to some mass production farm. Not to go all PETA or anything but probably true in some cases.

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Old 10-01-2008, 01:12 PM
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Not sure where you are getting the latter info. Have you ever even met anyone who is Amish? Conversed with them? Gotten to know them? I've happened to meet several Amish people, even been in one of their homes. Naturally, I can't speak for all of them but the people I have met do not think they are better than everyone else who is not Amish and they are certainly not cruel to their animals. They are aware of the fact that their very livelihood depends a lot on their animals. An animal in the care of the Amish would be treated extremely well compared to some mass production farm. Not to go all PETA or anything but probably true in some cases.
Yes, I've been to Indiana and ate in Amish restaurants and shopped their stores. Have interacted with them in a limited basis. Did you, by any chance happen to read the article in People Magazine last week about the Amish and their practices concerning their dogs? Well, if you didn't, you might want to read it before jumping all over my 5hit. If you consider keeping dogs in cages so small they can't stand up, thus crippling them for life, allowing the dogs to become diseased and not providing them vetrinary care and instead SHOOTING 80 dogs in lieu of having to provide them with vetrinary care, then I guess these are okay people. Fine, upstanding, moral, compassionate Christian people.
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Old 10-01-2008, 01:27 PM
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Puppy mills.....or not, Religious believes....or not......that's a personal choice, and not the topic here.
Not every Amish is into Jesus, nor is every Amish involved in Puppy Mill operations (And I don't think, anyone can argue about that, since that IS a personal choice !)

Again, the discussion here is, just "WHY" the Amish don't seem to be concerned to much about today's economic crisis....but has so many other folks very worried and concerned, almost frightened.

Sorry, I don't think the REAL ANWSER is found within the religious believes, nor in Puppy Mill operations.
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Old 10-01-2008, 01:40 PM
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They couldn't possibly ever do anything bad or wrong ... they're Amish!
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I just googled it - that act was done by 2 people and it's ridiculously unfair to judge the entire Amish community for the actions of 2 people. I find it quite appalling that you would do so.

As far as I know, the Amish don't own restaurants. Whatever restaurants you ate at, they might have been spinning it as an Amish-style restaurant. At best, the real owners simply hired Amish to work at their restaurants. But the fact is, the Amish aren't allowed to own anything that requires electricity - I can't imagine running a successful restaurant without electricity. Do their guests eat by oil lamps and candlelight or something?

Furthermore, the Amish generally don't appreciate being treated as a tourist attraction. I imagine this is possibly why you feel they think they are better than everyone else but that is not the case. They simply want to be left alone to live their simple lives. Some people just don't like being gawked at or having their picture taken. The Amish have been raised in this sort of culture. The very idea of them running a restaurant, which would essentially make them a tourist attraction, is unlikely. Even assuming it's true, I can see why they might resent being a tourist attraction and therefore why you would think they came across as thinking they are better. In reality, they probably feel as though it's the "English" who think they are better than the Amish, hence why they try to lead succluded lives.

If you could maybe just be a little more open minded, you might see that you're actually misunderstanding them. Misunderstanding the Amish culture is no different than misunderstanding any other culture of the world - you come across as closed minded and uncultured if you refuse to understand the real reasons behind what you misinterpret as superiority.
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I just googled it - that act was done by 2 people and it's ridiculously unfair to judge the entire Amish community for the actions of 2 people. I find it quite appalling that you would do so.

As far as I know, the Amish don't own restaurants. Whatever restaurants you ate at, they might have been spinning it as an Amish-style restaurant. At best, the real owners simply hired Amish to work at their restaurants. But the fact is, the Amish aren't allowed to own anything that requires electricity - I can't imagine running a successful restaurant without electricity. Do their guests eat by oil lamps and candlelight or something?
Furthermore, the Amish generally don't appreciate being treated as a tourist attraction. I imagine this is possibly why you feel they think they are better than everyone else but that is not the case. They simply want to be left alone to live their simple lives. Some people just don't like being gawked at or having their picture taken. The Amish have been raised in this sort of culture. The very idea of them running a restaurant, which would essentially make them a tourist attraction, is unlikely. Even assuming it's true, I can see why they might resent being a tourist attraction and therefore why you would think they came across as thinking they are better. In reality, they probably feel as though it's the "English" who think they are better than the Amish, hence why they try to lead succluded lives.

If you could maybe just be a little more open minded, you might see that you're actually misunderstanding them. Misunderstanding the Amish culture is no different than misunderstanding any other culture of the world - you come across as closed minded and uncultured if you refuse to understand the real reasons behind what you misinterpret as superiority.
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I just googled it - that act was done by 2 people and it's ridiculously unfair to judge the entire Amish community for the actions of 2 people. I find it quite appalling that you would do so.

As far as I know, the Amish don't own restaurants. Whatever restaurants you ate at, they might have been spinning it as an Amish-style restaurant. At best, the real owners simply hired Amish to work at their restaurants. But the fact is, the Amish aren't allowed to own anything that requires electricity - I can't imagine running a successful restaurant without electricity. Do their guests eat by oil lamps and candlelight or something?

Furthermore, the Amish generally don't appreciate being treated as a tourist attraction. I imagine this is possibly why you feel they think they are better than everyone else but that is not the case. They simply want to be left alone to live their simple lives. Some people just don't like being gawked at or having their picture taken. The Amish have been raised in this sort of culture. The very idea of them running a restaurant, which would essentially make them a tourist attraction, is unlikely. Even assuming it's true, I can see why they might resent being a tourist attraction and therefore why you would think they came across as thinking they are better. In reality, they probably feel as though it's the "English" who think they are better than the Amish, hence why they try to lead succluded lives.

If you could maybe just be a little more open minded, you might see that you're actually misunderstanding them. Misunderstanding the Amish culture is no different than misunderstanding any other culture of the world - you come across as closed minded and uncultured if you refuse to understand the real reasons behind what you misinterpret as superiority.


And your misunderstanding of them screams loudly throughout this entire post.
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