Women, what is your opinion about men? (percentage, words, movie)

[Ronzou]

I am WICKED confused... You're a dude... Yet you are asking some of the weird questions of what women think of men...

I think the best way you could of done this thread without offending some of the other dudes...

Women what is your opinion of men.

Simple, plain put, and easy... And not offensive to others.

[Bhaalspawn]

Most women know almost nothing about men and their lives, how sex roles and male-female dynamics have affected men, and what men think and feel. Any woman who really wants to understand men should read the excellent book, Why Men Are the Way They Are by men's movement writer Warren Farrel, who once served on the NOW board. Many women will be astounded as they learn just how much different the world is for men, and it might even improve their relations with men. Farrell is also the author of The Myth of Male Power: Why Men are the Disposable Sex, Women Can't Hear What Men Don't Say, Why Men Earn More, and other books.

Originally Posted by Hoosier_guy

As a guy I'm very offended that this thread is even started. By asking these questions you're putting it out there that men are all like that. There are so many men in this world that are decent, kind wonderful human beings. The men you're asking women to describe are what you would see on a Lifetime TV movie.

If you feel that men have been demonized and that we're getting the short end of the stick, maybe you'd enjoy the Men's Activism blog:

http://news.mensactivism.org/

[msjbrent]

Originally Posted by MoMark

Honestly and no disrespect intended at all, the experiences you cite have more to do with you than men in general. You make that clear with your statement "He is the opposite from all the other men I have met. I never had a good opinion of men". Ask yourself why you attracted these men or were attracted to them? If you're honest with yourself, I'll bet the answer lies with you, not them. As for the media and talk shows, they look for these situations so that they can get viewership and ratings with mostly female audiences. As a daytime talkshow viewer which you apparently are, haven't you noticed after Maury, Jerry Springer, and all the others that they end with a quick note to the audience to write in and appear on the show if they've ever had a spouse commit adultery, the father skipped town, been a victim of domestic violence, etc.? They clearly aren't looking for people with normal marriages are they? Yet you're using this vetted and screened source which seeks exceptions to back your opinion, a poor and skewed source to get a general opinion or use as proof of your views.
I know only one instance where this has been the case in a relationship of a close friend of mine. I know another friend, I was best man at his wedding, where after his wife Stacy had triplet boys, she left in the middle of the night and abandoned them and my friend and never once made an effort to seek them out (the boys are now 19). Should I judge all women as abandoners? What about women who kill their babies, should I judge all women because of some crazy few? Or why are all those blonde female teachers having sex with underage boys? Should I assume that attractive 20s to 30's women with blonde hair who teach are all child rapists? Of course not.
I'm glad you found a great guy, but the way you describe your attitude toward men and the source of it, I wonder how long that marriage will last before you accuse him of cheating? I hope that man has a deep well of love for you and the patience of a saint and I also hope you get a reality check and realize that if you begin to throw these expectations on him that you'll drive a wedge between you both and eventually you'll create the situation you say all men are and drive him away.
I think before you get married, counseling might be a very good idea. You may not see that you need it, but you likely do.

I don't believe I asked for the opinion of someone I do NOT know on my upcoming marriage. Your taking a few comments and assuming you know me; you don't. Worry about your own life, pal. You can find another way to feel superior then telling me I don't see things in my own life.

[Hoosier]

Originally Posted by msjbrent

I don't believe I asked for the opinion of someone I do NOT know on my upcoming marriage. Your taking a few comments and assuming you know me; you don't. Worry about your own life, pal. You can find another way to feel superior then telling me I don't see things in my own life.

Hey, relax. I think MoMark was only trying to be helpful. He is far from the type that wants to be superior. I know getting married is stressful, been there! Just know that when you come to these boards you may get unsolicited advice. Roll with it and take it with a grain of salt.

[MoMark]

Originally Posted by msjbrent

I don't believe I asked for the opinion of someone I do NOT know on my upcoming marriage. Your taking a few comments and assuming you know me; you don't. Worry about your own life, pal. You can find another way to feel superior then telling me I don't see things in my own life.

You volunteered the information, no one pulled it out of you. You've got issues and you described a woman with issues. Had you not wanted anyone to comment on what you wrote, then writing it in the forum wasn't a good idea was it?
My life is fine. I don't hold anything against anyone based on his or her sex. I find that women and men are far more alike than different in most ways and stereotyping either is usually an exercise in error.
There's nothing about feeling "superior" in my comment to you from my end. That you take it that way ties into your original posting.

[Manhattan-ite]

As a guy myself, I kind of prefer women to men...

But I've got to say that, for what I hear, the opinion of America's women on men is not very high.

It's not only that I see divorce, dysfunctional families, domestic abuse, too many enslaved housewives and unhelpful men all over our nation.

It's that, because I come from Europe, I'm sweet or so they say, attentive, clean-cook-wash-buy-groceries (a househusband), dress with care and I'm not afraid to show my sensibility or even "feminine side", all I hear from American women is the likes of:

"You are so good! There are no men in America like you". "Your wife is so lucky to have a good man", "You had to come from Europe".

Which makes me think that the "good husband" is an endangered species in our country, and most American men are dudes with baseball caps interested only in their beer and sports, couch potatos who marry women to have a disposable housewife, abusive macho men, dirty folks with no style, and so on.

Interesting.

[ellie]

I want a house husband again. I'm waiting till I can afford one. So sweet, you come home, and the house looks like something exploded.

No offense to you Manhattan-ite.

[Manhattan-ite]

Don't know what you mean. My wife is so happy to come home after work and see the house clean, dinner ready and the butler-husband service in place that she and her sisters have discouraged me to work out of the house. Oh, and the correct type of househusband is cheap- we don't consume much and ask for very little. Because we're in love!

Rumor has it they're appying to certify me as "Perfect Househusband".

Maybe you got one those sloppy slobby American husbands?

OK, the new breed of househusband comes from Europe...

[ellie]

I'll order one up immediately.

[mainebrokerman]

well now, what an interesting thread,(lol, im gonna get slammed)

ive seen many generalities being thrown about, so i'll add one more, and from talking to many woman this is an important angle, i believe many woman have an unfavorable opinion because, many young woman (not all) are for some unknown and disturbing reason ,,,are attracted to the bad-boy loser types, they want and think they can "change" this loser, or try to "mother" him out of being a loser. ive seen this first-hand, many very nice young woman, will be attracted to the losers, and the losers will treat them like dog-droppings, (even abuse them)and she will stay and take it for a while, then finally leave,,,leave with the feeling of being burnt, hating the whole species of men.