do u have a phobia about landing in small planes if u do don't land here st barths take a boat

[Rance]

Looks like a good place for a helicopter!

[Magnum Mike]

I'll have to try taking off and landing at this airport on the flight simulator.

One thing I should clarify, when taking off on short runways like that, enough thrust and proper flaps angle provide faster forward propulsion to maintain the proper pitch angle to give the needed faster climb-out and clear terrain (if needed) and prevent dangerous stalls at low altitudes.

[cruxan]

heads up or is that heads off

[Magnum Mike]

Originally Posted by cruxan

heads up or is that heads off

That's a DeHavilland Twin Otter, the ideal aircraft for transporting a small number of passengers, and it is capable of taking off and landing on short runways, with the type of steep final approaches like the ones we saw on those videos.

Here's another picture from the neighboring island of St Maarten, which also has an airport with a short runway, but it can accomodate large wide-body jetliners, including the Boeing 747, the Airbus A340, and the McDonnell Douglas MD-11/DC-10, but probably not the Airbus A380. I'm sure flight crews have to slow big aircraft like these down to as close to stall speed as possible. As you can see in this picture, it looks as if people could probably reach up and touch the tires on that 747!

[cruxan]

Originally Posted by Magnum Mike

That's a DeHavilland Twin Otter, the ideal aircraft for transporting a small number of passengers, and it is capable of taking off and landing on short runways, with the type of steep final approaches like the ones we saw on those videos.

Here's another picture from the neighboring island of St Maarten, which also has an airport with a short runway, but it can accomodate large wide-body jetliners, including the Boeing 747, the Airbus A340, and the McDonnell Douglas MD-11/DC-10, but probably not the Airbus A380. I'm sure flight crews have to slow big aircraft like these down to as close to stall speed as possible. As you can see in this picture, it looks as if people could probably reach up and touch the tires on that 747!

i've been there !! it's insane just look at the guy hiding behind the fence that guy is nuts if that 747 crashed that guy would have been vaporized..

st martin is only 12 miles from st barths i have to fly from st croix to st martin or take a ferry to get to st barths. it's becoming a hassle.

i've seen that pic its a great shot it realy puts things into perspective it
shows how big a 747 realy is.. my moms brother worked for boeing at everet seattle... when i was a teenager my uncle showed us a brand spanking new 747 at the main assembly building it smell like a new car in the cockpit!!! at that time it was only 58 million for a new 747.

[Magnum Mike]

Originally Posted by cruxan

i've been there !! it's insane just look at the guy hiding behind the fence that guy is nuts if that 747 crashed that guy would have been vaporized..

st martin is only 12 miles from st barths i have to fly from st croix to st martin or take a ferry to get to st barths. it's becoming a hassle.

i've seen that pic its a great shot it realy puts things into perspective it
shows how big a 747 realy is.. my moms brother worked for boeing at everet seattle... when i was a teenager my uncle showed us a brand spanking new 747 at the main assembly building it smell like a new car in the cockpit!!! at that time it was only 58 million for a new 747.

I've never been there, but I was told that some people like standing there just to get that rush of trailing wind from big aircraft like the 747, and he told me that it can be strong enough to knock somebody down on the ground.

The one dangerous aspect of standing over there, like that guy behind the fence, is if for some reason they had to abort the landing and go around, on a big aircraft like that they would have to advance the throttles to full to gain the needed speed, and you wouldn't want to be that close behind one of those engines at full throttle and around 58,000 pounds of thrust! With the Boeing 777, the thrust on each of its two engines (depending on the type) can produce over 100,000 pounds of thrust, so imagine the jet exhaust on one of those babies!

58 million for a 747? Wow, that sounds like a good deal, I know they cost around 300 million now, for the 400 variant. The ones your uncle worked on was probably the 200 or the 300 variant.

[Magnum Mike]

I added St Barthelemy island and its airport on the flight simulator last night and I used a twin-engine Beechcraft 58 Baron, and a larger twin-engine Beechcraft 1900-D. Take-offs were easy, and landings were easy on the smaller 58-baron, but on the larger 1900-D, I crashed on the runway the first time after that steep descent after that slope on that hill. I tried it 3 other times and I ended up overshooting the threshhold of the runway, even after reducing thrust to idle seconds before touchdown, then deploying reverse thrust after touchdown, and braking as much as possible. It was getting a little late last night, but I'll have to practice landing at St Barthelemy a little more with the 1900-D, and post some pictures on here.

[cruxan]

Originally Posted by Magnum Mike

I added St Barthelemy island and its airport on the flight simulator last night and I used a twin-engine Beechcraft 58 Baron, and a larger twin-engine Beechcraft 1900-D. Take-offs were easy, and landings were easy on the smaller 58-baron, but on the larger 1900-D, I crashed on the runway the first time after that steep descent after that slope on that hill. I tried it 3 other times and I ended up overshooting the threshhold of the runway, even after reducing thrust to idle seconds before touchdown, then deploying reverse thrust after touchdown, and braking as much as possible. It was getting a little late last night, but I'll have to practice landing at St Barthelemy a little more with the 1900-D, and post some pictures on here.

i want to see the crash lol post it

[Magnum Mike]

Originally Posted by cruxan

i want to see the crash lol post it

It doesn't store images of flights and crashes, unless I snap the shots right away, but I'll get on the simulator on Thursday and I'm sure I'll crash the 1900-D once or twice, then I'll post images.