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Old 06-22-2009, 11:15 AM
 
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YouTube - Landing in St Barts PC-12

my dads family lives here in st barths i've done this landing a few times it's a belly churner


this is what it looks like from the road i've stood here and watched the planes land it's harry u have to have a special licence to land here..


YouTube - Landing in St Barth
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Old 06-22-2009, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Naptowne, Alaska
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Why the heck don't they land from the other direction?
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Old 06-22-2009, 01:02 PM
 
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they used to land from the ocean side but was to dangerous for the biger planes if u can't stop u smack right into the hill and pooff !!

this is some old fotage of a landing from the beach side


YouTube - Cessna Caravan Landing in St. Barths
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Old 06-22-2009, 10:41 PM
 
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I have seen that footage on various shows.

Can you imagine a small airport like that here in the states? With the landing strip right at the end of the sandy beach? And with kids there??? Has there ever been any accidents there?
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Old 06-22-2009, 11:10 PM
 
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I have seen that footage on various shows.

Can you imagine a small airport like that here in the states? With the landing strip right at the end of the sandy beach? And with kids there??? Has there ever been any accidents there?

yes it does happen in 2001 a plane crashed into a house killing 20 people they moved the road over to the south some!!! that road on top of the hill was a disaster in the making.. even on the water side it's realy harry i've seen a plane almost take off a boat mast it's all about timing it's like a loto..

i've stood on the beach right in front of the runway when a plane was taking off and the landing gear was only like 8 feet above my head. i would not do that again!!!! one mistake and i would have been toast..

the pilot that used to fly people from st croix to st barhts was a great pilot but he does not fly there any more.. i have to go to st martin to get to st barths now..
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Old 06-22-2009, 11:21 PM
 
Location: Arizona, The American Southwest
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Why the heck don't they land from the other direction?
On final approach and landing, the ideal direction/heading to be in an airplane is against the direction of the wind to provide as much lift on the wings as possible. Safe landings are also possible when heading in the same direction as the wind, but with a short runway like the one in that video, going against the wind provides an extra margin of safety.
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Old 06-22-2009, 11:46 PM
 
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Guess I won't ever be going to St Barts!
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Old 06-23-2009, 12:26 AM
 
Location: Arizona, The American Southwest
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I just noticed the sloping terrain that's ahead of the threshold of the runway. You definitely have to time everything perfectly on a landing so you can touch down and still have enough room to to bring the aircraft to a full stop.

I also wached take-off videos and I know pilots set the parking brakes, set the thrust to very high, releast the brakes and roll for take off. This ensures that the aircraft gets enough speed to lift off and not stall. I also noticed that they bank sharply to the left to avoid the hill that's ahead and flying above residential areas. I know some of those twin engine aircraft have enough thrust to provide enough pitch (angle) to clear the hill, but they probably have to comply with noise abatement, that's why they bank sharply to the left shortly after lifting off.
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Old 06-23-2009, 12:27 AM
 
Location: southern california
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its not a phobia. phobia would be an unreasonable fear. small planes are dangerous.
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Old 06-23-2009, 12:34 AM
 
Location: In AZ but my home is Wi.
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Ive never been there and dont plan on it anytime soon, but pilots are usually pretty well trained to land where ever they need to, whether planned or unplanned, so no phobia of flying here. I would question flying over the bermuda triangle at any given time though.
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