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06-09-2007, 03:41 PM
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Feeling violated
I was talking to a friend at work the other day and I was telling them that I had been wondering why I hadn't heard from someone that I had been emailing about a transfer. I sent the HR about 3 letters and never got a response..........! Well, I realized at that moment by something he said, that people I hadn't told knew about the different stores I had emailed. Then it struck me that my manager had been reading my emails all this time, so now I am wondering if he deleted them, to stop me from transferring......Now I am wondering why I was so stupid in thinking that I could try to contact the other store thru email. My managers knew that I was looking at retirement elsewhere and wanting to transfer but I am wondering if they read about my negotiations with my job/pay and decided to delete my outgoing emails?.......Gosh, I can't believe I didn't realize this sooner. Now, I don't know if the HR ever got my emails? or if the HR got them and just didn't reply to me......Why would a manager care if I wanted to leave? I mean everyday they reminds us of how replaceable we are.....!!! And truly I am not the only one that has ever tried to transfer it happens all the time, and with people that have high positions in the company.........Am I just being paranoid? or did they actually read and delete my outgoing responses. Oh, and to make things clear, I was also negotiating over the phone, and responding in emails. The one I didn't get a response to after 3 emails, I had talked to 2 times, prior to this on the phone and my manager had been contacted for information on my work references. So why get involved in my negotiations on my pay/job offered to me........and the way I see it, if they called and asked for references and he said something unfavorable why would they try to negotiate with me about a job at all...........That means I wouldn't have gotten any responses to any of my emails, or phone calls? But, I did for some, and not others......hhhhhmmm, maybe I am being paranoid! But, also I am feeling like my privacy has been invaded!!!
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06-09-2007, 03:48 PM
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It is always best to conduct any type of job search or personal emailings from your personal email account and NOT the one given to yuo at your place of work.
All emails sent from within any business can be read by the sys admin or any number of people. If you are very concerned about this job, simply email them from a new account and explain that you had some problems with your email. I cannot stress strongly enough that you never want to conduct any personal transactions from a business account. If you need some help just PM me.
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06-09-2007, 03:57 PM
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Temporarily good natured
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I agree. You don't want to do this type of thing through company email, telephone or paid time.
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06-09-2007, 04:07 PM
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Actually my HR knew of all this and encouraged it. She told me that they don't mind getting phone calls from prospective transferees but calling them once or twice a week for negotiations and so on kind of bothers them and told me to email them, that way they have the discretion of dealing with things in their own time, mainly because people are going in and out of their offices, and they are interviewing and so forth or in meetings. She also told me she is always getting emails but doesn't always choose to answer them. So, I don't know if I wasn't answered or if my manager deleted it.....? I wouldn't have even thought of emailing thru the company emails system if she hadn't suggested it.
I have to be honest with you, this whole time I have been thinking "why don't u do this, I thought this was part of your job?" Instead she tells me to call, and to email them. When I handed her the transfer requests I was assuming she would do the leg work.....She just faxed them in and she told me it was ok for me to fax any more in if I wanted too. I have never ever transferred before I don't know what I am suppose to do, so I just did what she told me I could do.
Last edited by Putty; 06-09-2007 at 04:31 PM..
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06-09-2007, 04:17 PM
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Still, conduct all this from your personal email account regardless. Good luck to you.
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06-09-2007, 04:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jhlcomp
It is always best to conduct any type of job search or personal emailings from your personal email account and NOT the one given to yuo at your place of work.
All emails sent from within any business can be read by the sys admin or any number of people. If you are very concerned about this job, simply email them from a new account and explain that you had some problems with your email. I cannot stress strongly enough that you never want to conduct any personal transactions from a business account. If you need some help just PM me.
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There is the best piece of advice you can possibly get. Most companies will tell you right up front they monitor internet usage whether it's the company intranet or the www. I sure hope this works out for the best for you as it really stinks that people you did not want to see personal info no probably have.
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06-09-2007, 04:48 PM
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Good work ethics include not conducting "personal" business on company time. 
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06-09-2007, 05:00 PM
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Livin Life Down A Long Dirt Road
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KewGee
Good work ethics include not conducting "personal" business on company time. 
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You mean like visiting CD?  Uh oh...
If you wrote and sent the e-mails...surely they went through. Depending on your account or e-mail provider...some have the option to store a copy of sent mail. Someone can look in your sent folder and see what you mailed out or sent, if you did not shut down or log off your computer. Surely they don't recieve out going messages first, then send what they see fit! Is that even legal?
But if someone has read your sent mail, my guess is they snooped into your sent folder (and you can delete sent mails stored there). But I doubt they deleted anything before it reached it's destination.
*You yourself may be able to open the "sent" folder, and if a copy of your e-mails are there...they were sent!
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People may doubt what you say...but they will believe what you do...
Last edited by Rance; 06-09-2007 at 05:02 PM..
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06-09-2007, 05:48 PM
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Temporarily good natured
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Once, or twice, I've registered on some of those career websites, loaded my resume and have sent it out but anything coming back, or contact info, goes to my home email or my cell phone, and I get listings every day for jobs for which I've listed keyword matches. I've got real estate email coming in, I have jokes that go around and come around. I've actually got a lot of CHIT come to think of it.
And then I spend all day on CD.
Now is any of that ethical????? NOOOOOOOO. But I am in a position where I can get away with a lot. Until they find out..... :-)))
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06-09-2007, 07:53 PM
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Shar-Pei Advocate
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Location: NY-FL->half-back TN to someplace I dream of.....
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The company can apply a filter. They see what goes out. Believe me- banks know how to monitor any and all employee actions.
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