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The thing is, most of us don't attack other faiths for what they believe. We don't preach about what we think of their faith.
They do, however, as often and as loudly as they can, whether or not we want to hear it. They shove Bibles and religious tracts in our faces, and they don't listen when we say we're not interested. They consider it entirely acceptable to openly blaspheme against our faith, but when so much as one person takes the Lord's name in vain, they scream like there's no tomorrow.
It can't be both ways. You can't expect others to accord you any respect when you're not willing to follow your own rules.
I live in the bible belt so I know where your coming from. Still were not in children anymore. There are still some Christians out there who are not like what you describe. You can't judge them all by a few. Like you said if you don't show any respect then your not going to get any.
I have no problem with other people's religion although it seems that you do. I have a problem with my fellow Pagans who sit around & bad mouth other people's faith & whine about religous tolerance. Much like you seem to be doing. I hope that works for you. And good luck trying to drag me into a Pising contest.
Wait, you didn't answer my question... I asked what your problem was with the way that other pagans comport themselves... It's within their "believe" that they should whine, and here you sit and whine about them. You simply MUST be a descendant of Christians and other European gentiles. I hope you are alright with that kind of hypocrisy. They're probably complaining about you, and thus mirroring you, as I type this.
Wait, you didn't answer my question... I asked what your problem was with the way that other pagans comport themselves... It's within their "believe" that they should whine, and here you sit and whine about them. You simply MUST be a descendant of Christians and other European gentiles. I hope you are alright with that kind of hypocrisy. They're probably complaining about you, and thus mirroring you, as I type this.
If you can't understand what I'm getting at by now then that's your problem not mine. It's thier right to complain about me or you I hope you can live with that I know I can.
I think victimhood is a very big part of the Pagan identity.
Agreed, although I love the pagan ways I have noticed this about some of the followers. I tend to mix a bit of buddhism in with my pagan views to balance it out a bit, it seems I have a nice little "religious" stew brewing.
If you can't understand what I'm getting at by now then that's your problem not mine. It's thier right to complain about me or you I hope you can live with that I know I can.
It seems you can't understand what I'm getting at... uh, lost cause.
you think they have no right to complain... they disagree.
You said something about how pagans tell others to have religious tolerance, and yet they don't practice it... because they tell other to have religious tolerance... this means you have no religious tolerance towards those pagans that complain.
It seems you can't understand what I'm getting at... uh, lost cause.
you think they have no right to complain... they disagree.
You said something about how pagans tell others to have religious tolerance, and yet they don't practice it... because they tell other to have religious tolerance... this means you have no religious tolerance towards those pagans that complain.
I never said that they don't have a right we all have that right to speak our minds. It bother's me that some are not willing to make the first move & for some reason they can't seem to get past thier own personal feelings. Someone has to make the first move at some point or they are just chasing thier own tails so to speak. Either way its thier decsion. I just happen to disagree.
Tolerance and complaining are two different things.
I'm am tolerant and respectful in the company of the people of other faiths.
However- when my pagan artist group is having an online chat and someone comes in bible thumping, we all state that we all know what they are preaching about and that we are content in our path.
No one in the group is rude or lashes out. If anything, we share our stories about how we came about our path and what we believe. Every story is different.
Most times those who are doing the thumping go away quietly. On rare occasions we get those hard-nose religious types who just won't quit. We ask them to leave our chat room (nicely- for we believe in setting a good example). If they don't, we just ignore them and go about our chat.
Once they leave we may spend 1 or 2 minutes expressing things like 'thank god that's over' or 'wow, persistent they were' and the like. We do not bash but we do 'complain' to a very small extent.
There is nothing wrong with complaining when warranted.
There is a problem when complaining turns to intolerant actions.
I feel incredibly fortunate that my group does not feel the need to 'put them in their place' when those thumpers come around.
I do understand, to a degree only because it is human nature, that some pagans are intolerant. When constantly bombarded with 'you are devil worshippers' and 'let me save you' speeches. Everyone has a breaking point, some just sooner than others.
Do I think it is right to lash out or be intolerant? Absolutly not!
I find that intolerant pagans are just as unattractive as the thumpers.
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