Wicca - white or black, magic is from Satan (Lord, principle, religion)

[ontheroad]

I haven't heard or read your references but as I said in a recent post, I am no longer willing to try to explore ideas with you. Clearly, you have already made up your mind about most issues discussed here. Hence, I will retreat to my own ivory tower!

Originally Posted by spunky1

There are many things I am interesting exploring, but I can assure you witchcraft and sorcery are not among them.

And you still did not respond to my question about Bettelheim and his credentials.

[Lauri_25ny]

I admit I didn't read through all these pages, because alot of times topics like these spin off into the totally absurd.

I'm a Pagan. There are a wide variety of forms of Paganism. Some practice magick some don't. I don't. My beliefs are more in line with the Native American beliefs.

Magick can be good and bad. It's all how they choose to use it. True Wiccans do not use their magick to harm, and rarely use it outside their own circles.

[I LOVE NORTH CAROLINA]

Originally Posted by MsMuir

I am a Christian and I also believe in the devil...
at least that's what I've been brought up to
believe...also that there's a hell...

The only thing I know about Wiccan is that they believe
whatever you do, good or bad, it comes back to you 10 fold...that in itself should keep you on the right track...
only my humble opinion

You say you're a Christian? Then you should know only God and keep you on the right track.

[Lucidus]

Does anyone think it would be possible to use black magic to raise an undead army and use it to conquer the world. I would interested in something like that.

[Hoosier]

My reference to Harry Potter is simple. The book and movies are about witchcraft. IMO that is not of God. It does not honor God. All evil, all magic does not derive from God. If it is not from God, then it comes from the devil.

I have seen one or two Harry Potter movies to see what all the hoopla is about. I would NEVER allow my children to watch any of that, or read the books. It is pure evil and I do not want my kids exposed to that. As children they do not have the understanding I do as an adult. I know this as when I was a teen I read books like 666, Demon medallions and other horrific books. I watched gory movies and to this day regret all that. My parents allowed me to make my own choices in this area. I will not make that same mistake with my kids.

[Nea1]

There is nothing Evil in the HP series, the only thing scary is seeing so many people that dont understand immagination and the fact MAGIC isnt real. My kids, know it isnt real and have since the age of 6 and allowing your children to believe it is is unrational. The bible leaves to much open to interpretation and over zealous people will take it too far, exactly why I dont pay much attention to it. My kids are not evil, nor am I and we enjoy the movies.

[Lauri_25ny]

Originally Posted by Hoosier_guy

My reference to Harry Potter is simple. The book and movies are about witchcraft. IMO that is not of God. It does not honor God. All evil, all magic does not derive from God. If it is not from God, then it comes from the devil.

I do not believe in God and I do not believe in the devil. Magick is not evil. Can it be used for evil? Probably. I don't know of anyone that practices it for that purpose, though so I can't say for sure.

I have seen one or two Harry Potter movies to see what all the hoopla is about. I would NEVER allow my children to watch any of that, or read the books. It is pure evil and I do not want my kids exposed to that. As children they do not have the understanding I do as an adult. I know this as when I was a teen I read books like 666, Demon medallions and other horrific books. I watched gory movies and to this day regret all that. My parents allowed me to make my own choices in this area. I will not make that same mistake with my kids.

Harry Potter, like the gory movies, is a fantasy. It's not real. If you teach your children the difference between fantasy and reality there won't be any issues.

[Marks]

Originally Posted by Lucidus

Does anyone think it would be possible to use black magic to raise an undead army and use it to conquer the world. I would interested in something like that.

What's an "undead" army? if dead is dead it's then not "undead" that would be alive.

[Nea1]

Originally Posted by Lucidus

Does anyone think it would be possible to use black magic to raise an undead army and use it to conquer the world. I would interested in something like that.

Have you been watching the Mummy? No magic doesnt exist so no you couldnt raise the dead to create an army.

[spunky1]

Originally Posted by Lauri_25ny

Harry Potter, like the gory movies, is a fantasy. It's not real. If you teach your children the difference between fantasy and reality there won't be any issues.

No one is disputing that it's not real. . . that's not the issue.