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Old 06-19-2007, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Tennessee/Michigan
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OTTAWA, June 19, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - In response to a debate on spanking that took place yesterday before the Senate Committee of Human Rights (SCHR), the Institute of Marriage and Family Canada (IMFC) presented a research report indicating their disapproval of the proposed new legislation.

The debated bill, S-207, would take out Section 43 of the Criminal Code (allowing spanking), thereby forbidding parents to spank their children, effectively making it criminal behaviour.

The IMFC report begins by outlining some of the evidence in favour of spanking. After Sweden outlawed it in 1979, for example, links were established between the new policy and a rise in violence. While last year, Dr. Jane Millichamp of the University of Otago in New Zealand released a study that examined 1000 children over 30 years. The study concluded, "Punishing children by spanking does not make them more aggressive or anti-social as adults." Many other past and recent studies have reached similar conclusions.

http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/jun/07061901.html
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Old 06-28-2007, 10:14 AM
 
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Default Should the government get involved?

We think that the government should stay out of the personal lives of law abiding families. How would this be policed? There is a difference between abuse and dicipline. Children need to be diciplined.
"If it's not 'broke' don't fix it" Abuse is going to happen regardless of Section 43. It's already against the 'law' focus on policing that, and leave the people who are maintaining control and reasonableness alone!


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OTTAWA, June 19, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - In response to a debate on spanking that took place yesterday before the Senate Committee of Human Rights (SCHR), the Institute of Marriage and Family Canada (IMFC) presented a research report indicating their disapproval of the proposed new legislation.

The debated bill, S-207, would take out Section 43 of the Criminal Code (allowing spanking), thereby forbidding parents to spank their children, effectively making it criminal behaviour.

The IMFC report begins by outlining some of the evidence in favour of spanking. After Sweden outlawed it in 1979, for example, links were established between the new policy and a rise in violence. While last year, Dr. Jane Millichamp of the University of Otago in New Zealand released a study that examined 1000 children over 30 years. The study concluded, "Punishing children by spanking does not make them more aggressive or anti-social as adults." Many other past and recent studies have reached similar conclusions.

http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/jun/07061901.html
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Old 06-28-2007, 03:42 PM
 
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I suppose 'spanking' will have to be precisely defined.

Years of legal challenges and all that.
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Old 06-28-2007, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Far Western KY
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Yet another reason not to live in Canada.
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Old 06-28-2007, 08:00 PM
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Location: Sebastian/ FL
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Angry Great....another thing the government sticks it's nose in....

It seems to me, that the governments in this world stick their noses more and more in personal affairs, where it doesn't belong.
If I want to spank my child (I have, and DON'T feel bad about it! So, please DON'T bother lecturing me about it!!), I, as a mother to that child, should have enough authority to do so, without "checking" in with the gosh darn government.
Come on, we are not talking about a beating here!
Unless the government got pregnant and carried my child, gave birth to my child, raises my child, which they didn't....... they should just put a sock in it, stay out of it, and shut up about it.
Here it shows, again, that the government and it's polititians have so much time on their hands, not worried about bigger issues, but making issues out of boredom.
Wait, the government will give you a "guideline" pamplet, a "do" and "don't" list, once they find out you are pregnant....ROTFL!
Who voted for those idiots????

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Old 06-28-2007, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Vancouver, Canada
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No one is going to tell me what to do with my child. There are times my son(s) need a quick smack on the butt. It doesn't happen very often but when it does you can bet they know why!!

And by the way, davart, that is a pretty damn rude comment. I could say something but us Canadians are not that rude.
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Old 06-29-2007, 07:12 AM
 
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No one is going to tell me what to do with my child. There are times my son(s) need a quick smack on the butt. It doesn't happen very often but when it does you can bet they know why!!

And by the way, davart, that is a pretty damn rude comment. I could say something but us Canadians are not that rude.

How is it up there in America's Hairpiece?? (Sorry couldn't resist ).

Anyway, spanking has been a child-rearing (no pun intended) tool since the dawn of time. The government needs to butt out. There are obvious signs of abuse in children and that's what people need to go off of instead of trying to pass laws that can't be enforced. Sorry if it offends you if I give my daughter a quick thwap on the behind at the grocery store when she's out of control, but hey, wouldn't these people be the same ones who would complain about my child being out of control if I didn't take matters into my own hands??? Now they want to tell me HOW I should do it???

Well PHHHHHT on them..
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Old 06-29-2007, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Vancouver, Canada
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How is it up there in America's Hairpiece?? (Sorry couldn't resist ).



Well PHHHHHT on them..

ggggrrrr!!! Seriously, if it's all in good fun I don't mind Canadian jokes. Like how we are bugged for saying 'eh' all the time. I didn't even notice it until an American friend kept pointing it out to me, we really do say that!

I whole heartedly agree with your last statement!!
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Old 06-29-2007, 04:48 PM
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Location: Sebastian/ FL
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No one is going to tell me what to do with my child. There are times my son(s) need a quick smack on the butt. It doesn't happen very often but when it does you can bet they know why!!

And by the way, davart, that is a pretty damn rude comment. I could say something but us Canadians are not that rude.
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Great....another thing the government sticks it's nose in....


It seems to me, that the governments in this world stick their noses more and more in personal affairs, where it doesn't belong.

Skoe, I couldn't agree more, and you thing just like me (huh...aren't me like "two peas in the pod"???) LOL
However, that person you named.....I believe he/ she was just pulling your chain, and trying to be funny.
I was the smart one, because I refered my "ranting" at ALL governments.....I don't care it is Canada's, USA'S, Germany's.....
I just think, if they would have a say in my personal, family affair...I would have moved to a comunist country, where everything is abused, your rights stripped, and you have no say in matters, period.
But, since I didn't, I will fight for my right!!!
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Old 06-29-2007, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Vancouver, Canada
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However, that person you named.....I believe he/ she was just pulling your chain, and trying to be funny.
That may be the case but it came out sounding rude. No ! or or or .......
so, who knows!

I like your pea pod analogy! I feel the same way!
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