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Old 08-06-2010, 07:43 AM
 
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Oh, I didn't even see your previous post. I guess my post was a possible outcome!


Same here. I was born and raised Catholic. Catholics as individuals tend to be rather liberal on birth control. The ones who are more conservative use the Rythem Method or some other form of natural birth control. Quiverfuls use absolutely no type of birth contro, not even natural, and purposely try to have as many children as possible. BIG DIFFERENCE.

They are now. When birth control and Planned Parenthood started out the Catholics were TOTALLY against it. But, eh, religions these day make concessions to keep with the times and retain numbers I suppose.

PS. I LOVE birth control
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Old 08-06-2010, 06:47 PM
 
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Most people who do not use artificial birth control, do not have 20 kids, or 15 or even 10. I have read that, among Amish and Mennonites (who typically do not use bc) the average family size is 5-8. There are some other factors related to this-but what I'm saying is, lots of people who do not use birth control do not have gigantic families. The Duggars are unusual even among their peers.
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Old 08-13-2010, 03:54 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Actually, "blanket training" is recommended by pediatricians to regular folk too It teaches babies boundaries and also helps their attention span. The "command game" is also a good teaching tool for young children. In the Duggars case, they probably don't have to worry much about the mob, or pedophiles, or even wife beaters because their children seem to be always supervised and with trusted immediate family.

The "modest dress" IMO is not meant to confine the women or to stamp out individuality. IMO it is just that, modest dress, having respect for your self and your body, not making your self an object, a mere display of T&A for people to ogle at. I don't think those girls dress weirdly modest. They were clothes that most girls their age would wear. They were their hair how most girls their age would.

It's a sad world we live in when people are judged so harshly for being decent It wasn't that long ago that decent was the norm and having all your bittles hanging out was looked down on. It wasn't that long ago that having decent well behaved, moral children was just the expectation, not a side show to be picked apart. What a difference a few decades make

You can dress modestly with wearing something other then a dress though. You can be modest wearing a t shirt and shorts, or pants. Guys will ogle no matter what a girl wears if he thinks she is pretty. Wearing long skirts is not going to make a guy find a girl less attractive.
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Old 08-13-2010, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Liberal Coast
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You can dress modestly with wearing something other then a dress though. You can be modest wearing a t shirt and shorts, or pants. Guys will ogle no matter what a girl wears if he thinks she is pretty. Wearing long skirts is not going to make a guy find a girl less attractive.
Not according to some people. There is a line in The Bible which goes along the lines of, "Women should not wear clothes of men." The very conservative groups interpret this to mean that women should not wear pants. Pants are clothes of men to these people. Shorts? Typically out of the question. For many people, myself and my husband included, it is not modest if it is cut above the knee. That is all personal opinion though, and we are not forcing it on others.
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Old 08-14-2010, 08:59 PM
 
Location: N of citrus, S of decent corn
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I think they are a very nice family...genuinely good. I've watched for awhile now and have looked for signs of controling behavior by the father and for other alarming things and I haven't found any.
Like I've said before, they have a right to raise their family as they see fit, and many people have done a lot worse. My issue is that the children are not being equiped for their future. They are not getting education past high school and the education they are getting is substandard. The family businesses cannot absorb all the children into them and the girls are being groomed only to get married and have kids. This is very unfortunate.
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Old 08-14-2010, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Upstate NY!
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...and lots of freshly churned butter!
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Old 08-15-2010, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Can someone explain to me how this woman can have had around 4 c-sections yet the Dr's let her birth some of her children vaginally? I thought after 2 c-sections every birth would have to be a c-section for fear of uterine rupture. Oh that's it. maybe her uterus is made of metal????
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Old 08-15-2010, 09:55 PM
 
Location: here
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Can someone explain to me how this woman can have had around 4 c-sections yet the Dr's let her birth some of her children vaginally? I thought after 2 c-sections every birth would have to be a c-section for fear of uterine rupture. Oh that's it. maybe her uterus is made of metal????
I don't know. Some docs will allow VBACs, some won't. Mine wouldn't do one, even after 1 previous c-section.
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Old 08-15-2010, 10:01 PM
 
Location: WI
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Can someone explain to me how this woman can have had around 4 c-sections yet the Dr's let her birth some of her children vaginally? I thought after 2 c-sections every birth would have to be a c-section for fear of uterine rupture. Oh that's it. maybe her uterus is made of metal????
IIRC, she tried many different doctors until she found one that would allow it.
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Old 08-15-2010, 10:24 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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Can someone explain to me how this woman can have had around 4 c-sections yet the Dr's let her birth some of her children vaginally? I thought after 2 c-sections every birth would have to be a c-section for fear of uterine rupture. Oh that's it. maybe her uterus is made of metal????
Actually the risk of uterine rupture is exaggerated because it more convenient for the doctors to schedule a c-section. If you want to read more on the subject International Cesarean Awareness Network.
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