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Old 09-16-2010, 11:40 AM
 
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I am aware of what a library is, yes.
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Old 09-16-2010, 02:44 PM
 
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Why do people make fun of things that they have no real understanding of? Is it because they are insecure about their own choices? Close minded? I don't really get it.
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Old 09-16-2010, 03:18 PM
 
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Why do people make fun of things that they have no real understanding of? Is it because they are insecure about their own choices? Close minded? I don't really get it.
I'm not making fun of unschooling. I don't understand it. I don't understand how generations of unschooled people could increase knowledge through the years, because it seems to me that children would learn less than their parents. I didn't know it was legal not to school your children in some way, and I don't understand how unschooling accomplishes anything without tests and measurements. I am simply ignorant about it, and as I said a few posts above, this is the very first time I had even heard of it.

So when I ask a question about it, a person who apparently knows quite a bit about it tells me to go buy a book or visit a library. That's not helpful. That's deliberately unhelpful. You went to all this trouble to say, "Find out for yourself." This is a chat thread. If you don't want to chat, then don't. I'm sorry I came off as snarky, but I think you are being overly defensive and condescending.
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Old 09-16-2010, 04:01 PM
 
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I'm not making fun of unschooling. I don't understand it. I don't understand how generations of unschooled people could increase knowledge through the years, because it seems to me that children would learn less than their parents. I didn't know it was legal not to school your children in some way, and I don't understand how unschooling accomplishes anything without tests and measurements. I am simply ignorant about it, and as I said a few posts above, this is the very first time I had even heard of it.

So when I ask a question about it, a person who apparently knows quite a bit about it tells me to go buy a book or visit a library. That's not helpful. That's deliberately unhelpful. You went to all this trouble to say, "Find out for yourself." This is a chat thread. If you don't want to chat, then don't. I'm sorry I came off as snarky, but I think you are being overly defensive and condescending.
I thought that I was being helpful by providing resources rather then getting involved in yet another conversation about it that was sure to end in drama(just like what happened in the unschooling thread). It's not something that can be easily understood by chatting about it on the internet. It is something that can be understood through reading actual books on the subject.

It was brought up in this thread in such a sarcastic manner (referring to children running feral and "unlearning" everything they know) that I wasn't sure if people just wanted to make fun of it or actually know more about it. I'm guessing the former considering there is already an entire thread devoted to it (and a few in the education forum) that could have been read and revived for clarification.
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Old 09-16-2010, 08:56 PM
 
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I thought that I was being helpful by providing resources rather then getting involved in yet another conversation about it that was sure to end in drama(just like what happened in the unschooling thread). It's not something that can be easily understood by chatting about it on the internet. It is something that can be understood through reading actual books on the subject.

It was brought up in this thread in such a sarcastic manner (referring to children running feral and "unlearning" everything they know) that I wasn't sure if people just wanted to make fun of it or actually know more about it. I'm guessing the former considering there is already an entire thread devoted to it (and a few in the education forum) that could have been read and revived for clarification.

But if Julia was unschooled she wouldn't even know about unschooling because it would have never been a natural interest of hers.
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Old 09-17-2010, 08:46 AM
 
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The source of my confusion is the word itself. "Un" means "not," so "unschooled" means "not schooled." Synonyms are "untaught," "uneducated," "untrained," "unlearned," and "illiterate," and I doubt unschoolers want those connotations. I thought it was just another name for homeschooling with a weak attempt to sound fun, like when 7-up was called the UNcola. I think unschooling is a misnomer and the people who came up with the term should have considered something like "natural learning," "holistic education," or "unstructured curriculum." I wouldn't use the term, myself.
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Old 09-17-2010, 09:04 AM
 
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I agree that the term leaves a lot to be desired. Instead, it should be called something like 'self-schooled'.
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Old 09-17-2010, 09:16 AM
 
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That's a good one too.
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Old 09-17-2010, 11:45 AM
 
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I think the unschool term kind of came around as a way to distinguish more self-directed, less structured homeschooling from the families that buy a curriculum like Abeka or any structured curriculum.

I know many homeschoolers who would not consider themselves unschoolers but they do allow the flexibility of directing the curriculum to reflect the interest of their children (but while staying pretty structured).

I had a friend about 10 yrs ago who planned to homeschool and she was definitely going towards "unschooling". Sweet as pie, and very very crunchy granola type person, very into the whole "child led exploration" philosophy. I think of her when I think of unschooling.

I honestly think it would be a whole lot of work for me and I would completely stress out over it. I could never unschool my four kids.

I have a friend who decided to homeschool (4 kids)and after a year of stressing over combining "the best" curriculum for each subject and grade level, she decided to just buy a complete curriculum so she knew she was getting it all covered.
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Old 09-17-2010, 04:08 PM
 
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Has anyone seen - well really HEARD - toddler shoes that squeak when they walk? I'm not talking a small sound but a loud, loud squeak.

I was at the grocery store this afternoon and while shopping in the produce section I hear what I thought was a dog toy squeaking. I look around trying to figure out what the????

There was a toddler with shoes on that squeaked with every step. I can't tell you how many heads were turning, and one lady walked past me and said, "I could no way put up with that!". It drove me nuts for the 10 minutes they were wondering around. The mother must have been able to completely tune it out.

Can't imagine why they would make a shoe like that, and why someone would buy it, but apparently they did and they do!

The only benefit I could think of while listening to her walk around was, well, I guess she won't lose "sound" of her child.....
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