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You know we're all adults here, I've got to say the who eeww thing is quite silly. If that's the reason some of you elected to circ your kids then......
There were lost of reasons I did it but the main one was I would never want them to have to go through that when they got older. It was much simpler to do it when they were born.
I just found it interesting that with the release of the study that it helps prevent girls from catching hpv from their partners, and the fact that you have a daughter yourself, that you would still be against circumcision for your son.
Even though you just read a study that found it would help prevent him from spreading a disease that causes cervical cancer to his girlfriend/wife. And that by you having a daughter, if her partner is circumcized it would lessen her potential to catch hpv and possibly develop cervical cancer.
But you are still against circumcision.
Not sure why you are singling me out specifically when others have also responded that they would not or have not circumcised?
You know we're all adults here, I've got to say the who eeww thing is quite silly. If that's the reason some of you elected to circ your kids then......
I found it not attractive and saying eww is a completely valid response if all that skin turns you off. If you think sexual attraction is NOT a part of having sex with someone you are mistaken. You can fake it, or maybe it doesn't bother you, but I prefer them cut, and just like having blue eyes, or an athletic build, we all have preferences that turn us on.
Crooked is also one of those weird things, but a crooked one I can handle (ha ha get it?) but I just did not like the turtle neck. Nor did my friends to be honest. If we found out they were uncut we would make fun of them, and it lasted for years.
I'm confused after looking at the abstract to the study. The link in the OP says that sexual partners of circumcised men had a 28% lower chance of contracting HPV. Is that accurate? I fully admit to being awful at math and statistics but it just doesn't sound right after reading the abstract to the actual study.
The study shows that after 24 months, 27.8 percent of the steady partners of circumcised men had HPV infections, compared with 38.7 per cent of the partners of uncircumcised men.
20.7 infections per 100 people were found in the circumcised group and 26.9 infections per 100 people were found in the uncircumcised group.
Is that really a difference of 28% or are they just saying that it reduces HPV rates from 38% to 28% ?
I found it not attractive and saying eww is a completely valid response if all that skin turns you off. If you think sexual attraction is NOT a part of having sex with someone you are mistaken. You can fake it, or maybe it doesn't bother you, but I prefer them cut, and just like having blue eyes, or an athletic build, we all have preferences that turn us on.
Crooked is also one of those weird things, but a crooked one I can handle (ha ha get it?) but I just did not like the turtle neck. Nor did my friends to be honest. If we found out they were uncut we would make fun of them, and it lasted for years.
I've seen them both ways and didn't have an ewww reaction to the uncircumcised. I didn't find one more attractive then the other, just different. :shrug:
I've seen them both ways and didn't have an ewww reaction to the uncircumcised. I didn't find one more attractive then the other, just different. :shrug:
Same. I also didn't think when it was "ready to go" that there was much of a difference between cut and uncut. It actually took me 3 times with someone to realize it was difference.
I found it not attractive and saying eww is a completely valid response if all that skin turns you off. If you think sexual attraction is NOT a part of having sex with someone you are mistaken. You can fake it, or maybe it doesn't bother you, but I prefer them cut, and just like having blue eyes, or an athletic build, we all have preferences that turn us on.
Crooked is also one of those weird things, but a crooked one I can handle (ha ha get it?) but I just did not like the turtle neck. Nor did my friends to be honest. If we found out they were uncut we would make fun of them, and it lasted for years.
HAHAHAHAHA....Taboo! Sorry I prefer a turtleneck over a crooked hooked one! I once dated this guy (may he rest in peace) who resembled a small version of Gonzo's nose. That scared me off!
As Mattie said and I will say I have come acrossed many and prefer me a turtleneck. When it came to us and our pregnancy, Mr. X said, if I have a turtleneck then Baby X has a turtleneck. I was for either or and I told Mr. X should Baby X later in life (God Forbid) need a circumcision it was on him to explain! But really for us it was a matter of personal choice.
Our Ob/gyn even talked us out of one because he said many people do it for cosmetic reasons or religious reasons, it doesn't matter whether you have a turtleneck or not you can still get STD's because you are not practicing safe sex. And he was adamant that men who are not cut have better sex lives. Mr. X agreed and was sold on it. I never did ask my Ob/gyn whether or not he was since he was really vocal about it.
This study was supposedly done in Uganda. This alone makes me skeptical. Uganda has had a lot of positive change in its people's health in recent years. I honestly don't think circumcision statistics has had much to do with the HPV virus in women. I think that's just coincidental, really. I think it has more to do with the fact that more people are receiving better health care and in some cases, health care at all in Uganda. Also, more men and women in Uganda are receiving sex education. Whether a man is circumsized or not will not affect whether he carries disease or spreads disease or not. His sexual habits and personal hygiene habits - that's what will determine his health and therfore the health of his partners.
This study was supposedly done in Uganda. This alone makes me skeptical. Uganda has had a lot of positive change in its people's health in recent years. I honestly don't think circumcision statistics has had much to do with the HPV virus in women. I think that's just coincidental, really. I think it has more to do with the fact that more people are receiving better health care and in some cases, health care at all in Uganda. Also, more men and women in Uganda are receiving sex education. Whether a man is circumsized or not will not affect whether he carries disease or spreads disease or not. His sexual habits and personal hygiene habits - that's what will determine his health and therfore the health of his partners.
I was also wondering about the differences in health care in Uganda. I wonder how often screening for HPV via paps is done. I also wonder about cultural differences. The study was done in couples who started out as HPV negative but later caught HPV. Were the partners faithful? If not, were they using condoms?
Why don't we do penis straightening plastic surgery so they are straighter if we are going for looks. For the HPV thing, why don't we just cut the whole thing off, then you have no chance. There are so many diseases out there, it seems that education might be the right path instead of hacking off body parts. I imagine in 30-50 years we will look back and wonder how we lived with a such a barbaric ritual through the 1900's. I think protecting yourself during sex will have a greater affect than the small percentages people are quoting about hpv protection.
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