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Old 02-16-2011, 01:04 PM
 
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well, it does usually mean unhealthy eating habits and laziness to a degree... These are bad habits that a lot of americans have and are passing on to their kids, sadly. There are exceptions of course (people with medical conditions).

Strangely though I know numerous people who are very fit and active and their cholesterol level is out of control, so just because someone is overweight does not mean they are unhealthy.

Unless a person knows the overweight person most of us have no clue why someone is overweight, it is just easier to generalize they must sit on their butts and eat all day.
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Old 02-16-2011, 01:05 PM
 
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Definitely we are surrounded by more and more consumer attacks than our parents were. I have found in my years of parenting (20!) that when you set your family values fairly concretely ("we prefer to save our money than waste it") you don't have to say no nearly as much. Kids need context- they need to understand WHY you are saying no.
good post, what I find interesting is that we think there is so much more to distract our kids now then when we were growing up, yet our parents felt the same way, technology will just keep humming along.
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Old 02-16-2011, 01:12 PM
 
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What I'm really anti is sneaky marketing. I can't find out if they're running ads on these cart TV's - my guess would be soon enough, if not already.
I just googled a couple of articles on it. What is showing now in a grocery cart near you, is one of three half-hour Disney videos! (Insert Dew roaring with laughter here. I should have known.)

Notice how you can buy Princess sippy cups in your grocery store?
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Old 02-16-2011, 01:17 PM
 
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Meh. My kids are way too big for that now, but when they were 2 and 4, I would have paid a buck or two for them to happily watch Dora while grocery shopping on the occasions when I had to take them shopping with me. They barely watched any TV at home, and never in the car, so it would be a novelty, as well as a way for me to get the shopping done quickly and with little stress. I loathe grocery shopping with kids, even now, and my kids are 10 and 8! They don't misbehave, but they slow me down big time. LOL
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Old 02-16-2011, 01:27 PM
 
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I just googled a couple of articles on it. What is showing now in a grocery cart near you, is one of three half-hour Disney videos! (Insert Dew roaring with laughter here. I should have known.)

Notice how you can buy Princess sippy cups in your grocery store?
Yep! Here's a funny thing I read a couple of days ago - Disney is now going into maternity wards and giving away onesies to newborns if they sign up for Disney stuff (well not the newborns, their parents, hehe).

Now you have to say "no" to your newborn in the maternity ward, for Pete's sake. At least new moms can get used to it - before they've even left the OB floor.
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Old 02-16-2011, 01:37 PM
 
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I agree, and that's exactly what I'm talking about. A TV in a shopping cart is not really an issue. But all of it put together really is. I do believe we have to say no a lot more now than parents used to. And it's starting way before the teen years.

Obviously I was exaggerating when I said "50 more things".

But let me put it this way. When I was a kid, back in the Jurassic age, there were really only a few things I got a no on - "no you can't have a bike until next Christmas", "no we really can't afford a pony", and "no you can't play on the street after dark".

Now, off the top of my head, it's:

No you can't ride in the TV cart
No you can't sit in the front seat
No you can't walk to your friend's house
No you can't have a Happy Meal
No you can't have a TV in your room
No you can't go on sproutonline.com/pbskids.com right now
No you can't have a Wii/xbox/PSP/Nintendo DS
No you can't wear makeup when you're eight
No you can't have a Facebook page
No you can't have an email account
No you can't have an Ipod/Ipad/Smartphone
No you can't do all 50 of the extracirricular activities currently offered
No you can't have whatever product they're marketing to you on your educational materials at school this week
No you can't go to the bathroom by yourself until you're 20

It's always the stock answer in these threads. Well you're the parent, just say no. It's your job to say no. I'm not scared of saying no, I just don't want to have "no" be the most used word in my vocabulary.

BTW, I'm not going to say no to all the things listed above. But the amount of things, even situations - that are around to say "no" to has increased out of all proportion to that which was around when we were young consumers, and when we were out exploring the world.

I think it's important as parents to say no to the marketers, the fear mongering news outlets, and the corporations trying to grab every last penny out of our kids' hands. Let's say no to them more, so we can say it to our kids less.
Geez, you have it so hard.

It's called parenting and by your post it looks like you may not be cutout being one.

I was born in 59 and I can tell you that my parents told us no just as much as you have to tell your kids no. Same for my two kids born in the 80's and 90's who were told no just as much.

Grow a set and be a parent or stop having kids.

busta
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Old 02-16-2011, 01:48 PM
 
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Geez, you have it so hard.

It's called parenting and by your post it looks like you may not be cutout being one.

I was born in 59 and I can tell you that my parents told us no just as much as you have to tell your kids no. Same for my two kids born in the 80's and 90's who were told no just as much.

Grow a set and be a parent or stop having kids.

busta
Be careful, you might hurt your head smacking yourself in the face that often.

I have a fabulous set, thanks. And I'm just about as old as you are. But I appreciate your input.
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Old 02-16-2011, 02:01 PM
 
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Meh. My kids are way too big for that now, but when they were 2 and 4, I would have paid a buck or two for them to happily watch Dora while grocery shopping on the occasions when I had to take them shopping with me. They barely watched any TV at home, and never in the car, so it would be a novelty, as well as a way for me to get the shopping done quickly and with little stress. I loathe grocery shopping with kids, even now, and my kids are 10 and 8! They don't misbehave, but they slow me down big time. LOL
But your kids will get to watch Dora for free. Only it's not Dora. It's Mickey. And probably a Disney Princess or two. Or three. And the average 4-year old is going to want what Mickey has. And, as you roll your cart to the checkout stand, you are going to pass Mickey sippy cups and Mickey popcorn and Princess tiaras, and Princess Valentines Day cards and Pluto dog food...
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Old 02-16-2011, 02:07 PM
 
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Geez, you have it so hard.

It's called parenting and by your post it looks like you may not be cutout being one.

I was born in 59 and I can tell you that my parents told us no just as much as you have to tell your kids no. Same for my two kids born in the 80's and 90's who were told no just as much.

Grow a set and be a parent or stop having kids.

busta
wow. That was rude. You can't deny that there is more "stuff" out there now than there was when you were a kid or when your kids were. You never had to say no to a DVD in the car, a hand-held game system, a cell phone, satellite TV, the special movie or sports package on satellite TV, a lap top computer, etc.
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Old 02-16-2011, 02:09 PM
 
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But your kids will get to watch Dora for free. Only it's not Dora. It's Mickey. And probably a Disney Princess or two. Or three. And the average 4-year old is going to want what Mickey has. And, as you roll your cart to the checkout stand, you are going to pass Mickey sippy cups and Mickey popcorn and Princess tiaras, and Princess Valentines Day cards and Pluto dog food...
I think ya'll are just jealous you didn't come up with this brilliant marketing scheme yourself!
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