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Old 04-06-2011, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Wallis and Futuna
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Perfectly reasonable. I mean, who wants to break little Timmy's heart and actually say the word no to him? This really is in the best interest of the children and I hope every state adopts this policy.

What kind of monsters are you people that encourage children learning they can't have everything they want? They are precious angels, you know.
Exactly. If parents would learn how to say "no" to their children, the government wouldn't have to step in and do it for them. Kids need to learn "no." Whether mommy and daddy like it or not. So who's going to make that decision? When you refuse to do your job, and the job needs to get done, someone else WILL step in and do it. If you don't like how someone else is doing your job, then get back in and do it yourself.

Also, they're not precious angels. They're special snowflakes, god bless their hearts.
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Old 04-06-2011, 11:09 AM
 
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Exactly. If parents would learn how to say "no" to their children, the government wouldn't have to step in and do it for them. Kids need to learn "no." Whether mommy and daddy like it or not. So who's going to make that decision? When you refuse to do your job, and the job needs to get done, someone else WILL step in and do it. If you don't like how someone else is doing your job, then get back in and do it yourself.

Also, they're not precious angels. They're special snowflakes, god bless their hearts.
Lol, I backed away from special snowflakes but it warms the cockles of my heart to see you keeping it alive and well.
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Old 04-06-2011, 11:28 AM
 
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Exactly. If parents would learn how to say "no" to their children, the government wouldn't have to step in and do it for them. Kids need to learn "no." Whether mommy and daddy like it or not. So who's going to make that decision? When you refuse to do your job, and the job needs to get done, someone else WILL step in and do it. If you don't like how someone else is doing your job, then get back in and do it yourself.

Also, they're not precious angels. They're special snowflakes, god bless their hearts.
If govt has to step in because a parent can't say no to McDonalds, we are in for trouble. More importantly though, why should a community have to change it's behavior because a small group of that community can't do the right thing?

Why aren't the parents who take kids to McDonalds every day for lunch and who's kids are fat penalized instead? But it is the parents who are responsible, going to McDonalds a reasonable amount of times and can say no who have to "pay the price" for others stupidity.

Although, this is just a witch hunt against fast food places (BK, Wendy's & McDonalds). Those places aren't making us fat. It is that far too many people eat processed food(from a grocery store), instead of actually cooking. Far too many people drink soda and sugar drinks, loaded with HFCS that make us fat. Far too many people sit in front of a TV, computer or video game that is making us fat. Politicians like blaming fast food places, it looks good for them and makes people believe they aren't ignorant people/parents who can't say no or who are unable to say, damn, it is my fault my kids are fat.

What else does it say about society, that a cartoon(Wall-E) prophesied our future.
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Old 04-06-2011, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Wallis and Futuna
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If govt has to step in because a parent can't say no to McDonalds, we are in for trouble. More importantly though, why should a community have to change it's behavior because a small group of that community can't do the right thing?

Why aren't the parents who take kids to McDonalds every day for lunch and who's kids are fat penalized instead? But it is the parents who are responsible, going to McDonalds a reasonable amount of times and can say no who have to "pay the price" for others stupidity.

Although, this is just a witch hunt against fast food places (BK, Wendy's & McDonalds). Those places aren't making us fat. It is that far too many people eat processed food(from a grocery store), instead of actually cooking. Far too many people drink soda and sugar drinks, loaded with HFCS that make us fat. Far too many people sit in front of a TV, computer or video game that is making us fat. Politicians like blaming fast food places, it looks good for them and makes people believe they aren't ignorant people/parents who can't say no or who are unable to say, damn, it is my fault my kids are fat.

What else does it say about society, that a cartoon(Wall-E) prophesied our future.
The point is, it says something about society, MUCH more than it says something about government. Society is failing itself. Don't blame government for society's ills.
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Old 04-06-2011, 11:39 AM
 
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What else does it say about society, that a cartoon(Wall-E) prophesied our future.
That Andrew Stanton and his fellow writers/cohorts at Disney-Pixar are really smart, inventive guys?
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Old 04-06-2011, 11:40 AM
 
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OMG WHAT ABOUT THE BEANIE BABIES????? HAS EVERYONE FROGOTEN THOSE? Lol hahaha those used to be my fav as a kid. But no seriously correct me if im wrong but isnt mcdonalds kids meals like alot healthier now? I mean I havent boughten one lately but I see on the menu that you can get milk instead of pop and apple dippers instead of frys.
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Old 04-06-2011, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Eastwood, Orlando FL
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OMG WHAT ABOUT THE BEANIE BABIES????? HAS EVERYONE FROGOTEN THOSE? Lol hahaha those used to be my fav as a kid. But no seriously correct me if im wrong but isnt mcdonalds kids meals like alot healthier now? I mean I havent boughten one lately but I see on the menu that you can get milk instead of pop and apple dippers instead of frys.
Yes, you can get those things. But do people actually do it? What percentage?
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Old 04-06-2011, 12:16 PM
 
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Here's my take on it, FWIW.

I don't have a problem with junk food per se, and I don't have a problem with toys.

I do think there's something not quite right about rewarding a kid with a toy for eating junk food. I think it's possible that by giving a kid a toy with their mac cheesy that they get the message eating said burger is a rewardable action.

So, would I give my kid an occasional burger? Yes. Would I give them a toy from McDonalds? Yes. Would I give them both together? No.

I personally wish the fast food joints would find another way to reel in their customers for life. Are they going to do it voluntarily? I don't think so. Would I like them to do it? Yes. Do I think the government should mandate they do it? No.
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Old 04-06-2011, 12:22 PM
 
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The point is, it says something about society, MUCH more than it says something about government. Society is failing itself. Don't blame government for society's ills.
Brilliant! I'll let the Rwandese know that their government has no blame for the ills in their society.

I do however believe that all of my post was directed at society being irresponsible, except for one sentence. That one sentence where I thought politicians were using this to further themselves at the expense of society.

But, you can see what you want to.
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Old 04-06-2011, 12:30 PM
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Perfectly reasonable. I mean, who wants to break little Timmy's heart and actually say the word no to him? This really is in the best interest of the children and I hope every state adopts this policy.

What kind of monsters are you people that encourage children learning they can't have everything they want? They are precious angels, you know.
I think you're reading way too much into what I posted. My son understands the word "no" and does not have his every whim catered to. However, he is also a good kid, does well in school, enjoys playing sports, does his chores (for which he earns his own money) and is sometimes even nice to his sisters. Sometimes I "splurge" a little and spend a few bucks on some toys from McDonald's if the toys are related to something he is into. On the occasion he is really into them and wants the whole set (they recently had some Star Wars toys that he wanted to collect) his grandfather hooks him up.

Perhaps heart broken was a poor choice of words, dissappointed is probably more approrpriate. Afterall, my son would need to lose out on something he likes because other people make poor decisions and some politicians want to pass some feel good BS legislation that does nothing more than further encroach on our lives.

People seem to not fully grasp the "slippery slope" when they approve of government intervention banning Happy Meal toys. It is NOT the governments job to pass laws to overcome the poor choices some people make. Besides, do you honestly believe that the 100 pound three year old waddling into McDonalds got that way because they gave out a toy in his meal?
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