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I agree with you. But I also know in the real world that if Main Street Elementary School gave out cookies to celebrate Ramadan there would be more than a few complaints.
And this is where recognizing that we are not the center of the universe and displays of celebration of something we don't take part in isn't synonymous with an attack on other belief systems.
Before posting about "how it's not fair to the other kids", imagine if YOU were the one who didn't celebrate. I'm sure you wouldn't be thrilled..
Imagine if your your tax dollar went to pay for art which covered your Savior in urine or his mother in dung. I'm sure you wouldn't be thrilled. On a relative scale hearing "Merry Crhistmas" really pales in comparison, doesn't it? Suck it up and de with it. Anyone ever notice that in general the stupid unwashed inbred Christians deal with these thing a whole lot better educated and tolerant non-believers?
Imagine if your your tax dollar went to pay for art which covered your Savior in urine or his mother in dung. I'm sure you wouldn't be thrilled. On a relative scale hearing "Merry Crhistmas" really pales in comparison, doesn't it? Suck it up and de with it. Anyone ever notice that in general the stupid unwashed inbred Christians deal with these thing a whole lot better educated and tolerant non-believers?
Oh goodness. You had to go there with your last statement? Very very few people have an actual issue with saying "Merry Christmas". However, there's nothing wrong with saying "Happy Holidays" if you, for example, live in a neighborhood with a wide variety of people of faith.
I would rather say Happy Holidays to my local Jewish/Hindu/Islamic storekeeper than Merry Christmas, because it still offers good wishes of the general season while respecting the fact that many of your neighbors DO NOT celebrate Christmas.
That's all it is, for most people. A simple acknowledgement that somebody just may not be celebrating the same occasion as yourself, and that you wish them well in general.
I still have no idea how people equate this with intolerance. I'm not intolerant of people celebrating Christmas, however if you live somewhere beyond really small town USA it's just good manners to acknowledge that others may not.
Oh goodness. You had to go there with your last statement? Very very few people have an actual issue with saying "Merry Christmas". However, there's nothing wrong with saying "Happy Holidays" if you, for example, live in a neighborhood with a wide variety of people of faith.
I would rather say Happy Holidays to my local Jewish/Hindu/Islamic storekeeper than Merry Christmas, because it still offers good wishes of the general season while respecting the fact that many of your neighbors DO NOT celebrate Christmas.
That's all it is, for most people. A simple acknowledgement that somebody just may not be celebrating the same occasion as yourself, and that you wish them well in general.
I still have no idea how people equate this with intolerance. I'm not intolerant of people celebrating Christmas, however if you live somewhere beyond really small town USA it's just good manners to acknowledge that others may not.
As a rule it is the case that people are given religion specific greetings if the religion is known. But an evergreen tree that is decorated with lights and ornaments is a Christmas Tree. It is not a Winter Celebration Gathering Object. Will it kill anyone to call it a Christmas Tree?
As a rule it is the case that people are given religion specific greetings if the religion is known. But an evergreen tree that is decorated with lights and ornaments is a Christmas Tree. It is not a Winter Celebration Gathering Object. Will it kill anyone to call it a Christmas Tree?
Who doesn't call it a Christmas tree, if it's a Christmas tree? Really, who?
I know there's a few cases of public buildings in big cities where it's a bit of an issue - but generally speaking, I don't know of anybody who doesn't call a Christmas tree a Christmas tree, whatever their religion or lack thereof.
The original story that started this thread has already been debunked. We don't know of anyone specifically that doesn't call an Easter Egg an Easter Egg.
I think the kids can sleep safely in their beds knowing that Chocolate Easter Bunnies and Christmas trees are safe in their homes.
Who doesn't call it a Christmas tree, if it's a Christmas tree? Really, who?
I know there's a few cases of public buildings in big cities where it's a bit of an issue - but generally speaking, I don't know of anybody who doesn't call a Christmas tree a Christmas tree, whatever their religion or lack thereof.
The original story that started this thread has already been debunked. We don't know of anyone specifically that doesn't call an Easter Egg an Easter Egg.
I think the kids can sleep safely in their beds knowing that Chocolate Easter Bunnies and Christmas trees are safe in their homes.
What about the Peeps? There is no Easter wihtout Peeps!!!
Anyone ever notice that in general the stupid unwashed inbred Christians deal with these thing a whole lot better educated and tolerant non-believers?
Really? Try getting one to willingly admit that the majority of symbols and holidays they use to celebrate Christianity and the Christian story are really hijacked from other religions, most often Paganism. This includes Easter and Christmas, and even the "Jesus fish" symbol itself.
Anyone ever notice that in general the stupid unwashed inbred Christians deal with these thing a whole lot better educated and tolerant non-believers?
No, I haven't noticed that. I think there are provocative ignoramuses on both sides. Pat "The Earthquake Was Just God's Way of Saying He's Mad at Haiti" Robertson comes to mind. This hoax was probably started by one such ignoramus.
This particular story was debunked or is at least not credible. I think a new, general thread, about how parents deal with messages in school that conflict with what they teach their children, would be useful.
No, I haven't noticed that. I think there are provocative ignoramuses on both sides. Pat "The Earthquake Was Just God's Way of Saying He's Mad at Haiti" Robertson comes to mind. This hoax was probably started by one such ignoramus.
This particular story was debunked or is at least not credible. I think a new, general thread, about how parents deal with messages in school that conflict with what they teach their children, would be useful.
Pat Robertson and his ilk are idiots. But that doesn't change the PCmania that exists.
I lice in a mid-sized Midwestern town. Our town's Christmas light display is now the "Celebration of Winter". Care to explain how that makes everyone more inclusive or tolerant? We have differences, being forced to hide those differences strips us of our individualism (note: I'm not talking about hate groups).
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Really? Try getting one to willingly admit that the majority of symbols and holidays they use to celebrate Christianity and the Christian story are really hijacked from other religions, most often Paganism. This includes Easter and Christmas, and even the "Jesus fish" symbol itself.
