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you do it. you guys are the statistician male bashers. hate your SAHM job and wanna rant about it online. cool. make this a chat thread and not one up for debate. because as long as you're presenting it as a debate, it's gonna get debated lady.
Nah, you've spent some time on C-D, right, perhaps over in P&OC? In a debate, burden of providing evidence is on the one asking the questions and making the assertions (that would be you, in this scenario). If you want to play on the thread, do your homework. Otherwise it's just blather and you know what they say about opinions...
BTW, there's a SAHD over on the open SAHD thread if you have any questions for him.
Maybe we are defining "slave labor" differently. I'm all about personal responsibility-- but Moses freed my mother's people years ago, and I'm not really up for reinstituting the tradition.
I am fairly certain I stated they clean up their messes not do general housework. And how many hours a day are you spending cleaning up vomit. In all honesty it is by no means a regular part of my daily or even weekly routines. Even when I ran carpool.
The reference was that increased numbers of individuals increase the workload, and the response that "what, they don't pick up after themselves?" By that sequence, it is generally reasonable to presume that it is being indicated that "picking up after themselves" negates the increased workload, which in fact it would not.
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1. I have not stated a single negative opinion about SAHMs. I am not remotely sure why you insist on pegging me as saying things I haven't.
Mea culpa. (Maybe.) At this point, and after several threads, you and Ivory bear a more than passing resemblance. And while I don't know that I'd agree with your absolute, I'm far too unmotivated to search the last couple pages of the thread.
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2. I am a teacher at a high school for the gifted where I teach college courses. Parents, working or not, do not do anything for my class or my students along the lines you have suggested. So being a SAHM or a WM has literally no bearing on my class or my students. Granted the vast majority come from two working parent homes but the SAHMs aren't exactly coming in to do any of our research.
Oddly enough, I'm familiar with schools for the gifted, and yes, I would certainly hope your students are not cutting out Rudolph noses, since that's more of a kindergarten-level thing. The point remains, though, despite your insistence on quibbling at examples.
That is a very good point. My social circle does not include anybody who works in construction. I'm surrounded by highly-educated thought workers; therefore, my peers are part of a very different demographic than that which he is describing.
Ahem.
Master's level architects and structural engineers also work "in construction". Just...y'know. FTR.
Not that I'm suggesting what'shisname is either.
Coming from one of those military families you mentioned, I just want to tell you that's it not about the money or for us. Our husbands decided to that the best way to provide a future for us and our kids was to protect the country. Is it hard sometimes to not be paid for overtime and have you husband deployed more that he is home absolutely, but we do it because we love our men and our babies. I am still going to pursue a career and my children have cushy lives because of the love they receive. But that is what work for us. I am not offended in any way and I hope that you won't be offended by this response either, because I say as friendly as possible. You will be alright, do what is best for you and your future babies and husband will love you for it. Take care! BTW, love the screen name
eh, no worries. I'm waiting for the upset ilk of this crowd to chime in like they normally do with their "I hate my job as SAHM!".
be patient.
It's the sole reason I started "Should Men gravitate to SAHD status" thread.
1. It's not a job. Were it a job, I'd get a paycheck and social security benefits. And days off.
2. I don't hate it. If I hated it, I'd do something else.
and, apropos of earlier posts:
3. Post grad work and some random professional certification programming. I use my education, I just don't use it to earn money.
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