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Old 07-09-2011, 06:49 PM
 
Location: You know... That place
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I am trying to figure out the logistics of this thing too. When DD needed to eat, she needed to eat. I didn't have time to call a truck, wait for it to arrive (if it wasn't busy somewhere else), wait for them to set it up where I was and then sit down to nurse. Am I supposed to call ahead and say "DD will probably need to eat in about an hour. Please meet me at this location." If I am going through all of that trouble, I can just find a private place to nurse. I just don't see it working.
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Old 07-09-2011, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Australia
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breastfeeding is the natural way and we should be supportive of moms who do it and they should be able and comfortabe and able to do it in public.
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Old 07-10-2011, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Hillsborough
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It sounds like it is meant to respond to calls where women are feeling harassed for breastfeeding at an establishment in order to call negative attention to the establishment. More about activism than about day-to-day helping women find a place to nurse.

I follow breastfeeding in the news and I would say that I see stories about a woman being told she can't nurse somewhere in public (covered or not) about 2-3 times per month. For example, a recent case was that of a woman told she couldn't nurse her 2-week-old baby on a city bus. Many others are harassed for nursing in public and it never makes the news, such as when I was nursing my then 5-week-old at a local mall.

Whether or not you think it's appropriate, in almost every US state women are protected by law to nurse in public, covered or uncovered. In my state the text of the law reads: "Notwithstanding any other provision of law, a woman may breast feed in any public or private location where she is otherwise authorized to be, irrespective of whether the nipple of the mother's breast is uncovered during or incidental to the breast feeding." Many mothers prefer to cover while nursing, but that is their choice. Just because one chooses that, does not mean that all are, or should be, required to do so.

It is possible that your child may ask you some hard questions before you had thought about how to answer. My 5yo asks me hard questions all the time in response to what she sees around her that I wasn't necessarily prepared to answer: Why is that man smoking? Why did that mommy hurt her kid (ie spanking)? Why is that baby crying but his mommy isn't helping him? What does (insert word you didn't want child to hear) mean? How did XXX have a baby if she isn't married? Why doesn't YYY have a daddy? Why is ZZZ's daddy in jail? Why doesn't that man have a job/home/food? And on and on. Your children are going to see lots of things in the world and ask about them before you had thought to discuss it. If the worst you have to answer is "What is that mommy doing with that baby under her shirt?" or "What is that funny looking thing on top of the ice-cream truck?" then really I don't think you've got a big problem. And if your children don't know what breasts are, or what they are for, then maybe it's time for a biology lesson. Not about sex, about babies. About mammals.
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Old 07-10-2011, 08:09 AM
 
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Ugh! I heard about this on Bratfree. This is just way too much. Ok maybe not the truck idea but the boob on top ain't happening. Imagine someone with a toddler asking their mom what that is or having your teenage son drooling over it like it was porn. That wouldn't go over so well. It would be breastfeesing moms vs. mom with toddlers, Tweens and teens.
Toddlers are well aware of what boobs are. Boobs are not a foreign object to toddlers. They aren't going to be shocked seeing a boob anywhere. It's only adults that have hangups with other people's boobs.

If your teenage son is drooling over and is titillated (pun totally intended) by a plastic boob, then your teenage son either has issues or is just being a teenage boy - probably both. Believe it or not, teenage sons are also well aware of boobs.

And I have to ask, what is Bratfree?
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Old 07-10-2011, 08:48 AM
 
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Toddlers are well aware of what boobs are. Boobs are not a foreign object to toddlers. They aren't going to be shocked seeing a boob anywhere. It's only adults that have hangups with other people's boobs.

If your teenage son is drooling over and is titillated (pun totally intended) by a plastic boob, then your teenage son either has issues or is just being a teenage boy - probably both. Believe it or not, teenage sons are also well aware of boobs.

And I have to ask, what is Bratfree?
Hmm. I guess things have changed since I was a kid (not to long ago lol). I guess Im just used to the way I was raised. My family was big on modesty that's why.

Bratfree is a CF rant site. But I wouldn't go there and sign on if you're a parent if I were you. They can get really nasty on there. They'll even label good parents as "breeders" (a label reserved for bad, abusive, irresponsible parents not the good ones). Just saying. I haven't even signed on. I read their threads and I agree with some of them and think they're funny but not all.
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Old 07-10-2011, 08:57 AM
 
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Hmm. I guess things have changed since I was a kid (not to long ago lol). I guess Im just used to the way I was raised. My family was big on modesty that's why.

Bratfree is a CF rant site. But I wouldn't go there and sign on if you're a parent if I were you. They can get really nasty on there. They'll even label good parents as "breeders" (a label reserved for bad, abusive, irresponsible parents not the good ones). Just saying. I haven't even signed on. I read their threads and I agree with some of them and think they're funny but not all.
And you don't see the irony in that at all, do you?
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Old 07-10-2011, 08:59 AM
 
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Yes but I'm not them
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Old 07-10-2011, 09:31 AM
 
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Hmm. I guess things have changed since I was a kid (not to long ago lol). I guess Im just used to the way I was raised. My family was big on modesty that's why.

Bratfree is a CF rant site. But I wouldn't go there and sign on if you're a parent if I were you. They can get really nasty on there. They'll even label good parents as "breeders" (a label reserved for bad, abusive, irresponsible parents not the good ones). Just saying. I haven't even signed on. I read their threads and I agree with some of them and think they're funny but not all.
Modesty or not, you had to know what a boob was.

And if an adult can't seperate a child receiving nourishment and the sexual idea of a boob? Well, that adut has a lot of growing up to do.
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Old 07-10-2011, 10:11 AM
 
Location: You know... That place
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Modesty or not, you had to know what a boob was.

And if an adult can't seperate a child receiving nourishment and the sexual idea of a boob? Well, that adut has a lot of growing up to do.
Oh my gosh! That woman is feeding her child!!!!!! How could she do that? That's horrible!
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Old 07-10-2011, 10:30 AM
 
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It sounds like it is meant to respond to calls where women are feeling harassed for breastfeeding at an establishment in order to call negative attention to the establishment. More about activism than about day-to-day helping women find a place to nurse.

I follow breastfeeding in the news and I would say that I see stories about a woman being told she can't nurse somewhere in public (covered or not) about 2-3 times per month. For example, a recent case was that of a woman told she couldn't nurse her 2-week-old baby on a city bus. Many others are harassed for nursing in public and it never makes the news, such as when I was nursing my then 5-week-old at a local mall.

Whether or not you think it's appropriate, in almost every US state women are protected by law to nurse in public, covered or uncovered. In my state the text of the law reads: "Notwithstanding any other provision of law, a woman may breast feed in any public or private location where she is otherwise authorized to be, irrespective of whether the nipple of the mother's breast is uncovered during or incidental to the breast feeding." Many mothers prefer to cover while nursing, but that is their choice. Just because one chooses that, does not mean that all are, or should be, required to do so.

It is possible that your child may ask you some hard questions before you had thought about how to answer. My 5yo asks me hard questions all the time in response to what she sees around her that I wasn't necessarily prepared to answer: Why is that man smoking? Why did that mommy hurt her kid (ie spanking)? Why is that baby crying but his mommy isn't helping him? What does (insert word you didn't want child to hear) mean? How did XXX have a baby if she isn't married? Why doesn't YYY have a daddy? Why is ZZZ's daddy in jail? Why doesn't that man have a job/home/food? And on and on. Your children are going to see lots of things in the world and ask about them before you had thought to discuss it. If the worst you have to answer is "What is that mommy doing with that baby under her shirt?" or "What is that funny looking thing on top of the ice-cream truck?" then really I don't think you've got a big problem. And if your children don't know what breasts are, or what they are for, then maybe it's time for a biology lesson. Not about sex, about babies. About mammals.
It's really hard for me to understand being harrassed for nursing. My kids were born in the early 70s and I was NEVER ever told not to nurse anywhere I went. I did cover up, but still... Maybe, the Chicago area was simply more accepting.
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