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Old 09-10-2011, 03:28 PM
 
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Yeah. If I were a college student, I would have dealt with that myself. My parents never had to fight my battles in college.
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I didn't get that either. A college student was unable to address this and have it fixed?
He was a high school student. He attended college full time for 11th and 12 grade. This happened his first term. He was 16 at the time.

 
Old 09-10-2011, 03:33 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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He was a high school student. He attended college full time for 11th and 12 grade. This happened his first term. He was 16 at the time.

I'll take back my picture then. If you'd mentioned that earlier I missed it.
 
Old 09-10-2011, 04:37 PM
 
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I got the impression that you believe my interest in and use of testing information to collaborate with my children's teachers is a bad thing. Was I wrong?

edit: On second thought, never mind. As I wrote in one of my first posts to this thread, it doesn't matter what you do, somebody will always find fault with it.
Wrong? Probably not. You are acting in your children's best interest. I just find it woefully unnecessary.
 
Old 09-10-2011, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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This is going off subject for a minute but I would like to know how teachers feel about people coming in and doing their jobs (as subs) who are not qualified in the least to be doing so and then they say things like " oh, just get a job at the school, perfect hours and sometimes I don't even have to do anything but hand out assignments all day".
I have a hard time with the fact that really all someone has to do is take a civil service test, go though clearances and have a degree in whatever, to be able to teach our children when a teacher is out.
I then have a hard time hearing them say things like how easy it is,etc... I am not happy that my tax dollars for the public schools allow someone to call themselves a "teacher" when they are not and they are getting paid money for it. If I was a teacher, I would be even more bothered by it.
 
Old 09-10-2011, 04:56 PM
 
Location: here
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This is going off subject for a minute but I would like to know how teachers feel about people coming in and doing their jobs (as subs) who are not qualified in the least to be doing so and then they say things like " oh, just get a job at the school, perfect hours and sometimes I don't even have to do anything but hand out assignments all day".
I have a hard time with the fact that really all someone has to do is take a civil service test, go though clearances and have a degree in whatever, to be able to teach our children when a teacher is out.
I then have a hard time hearing them say things like how easy it is,etc... I am not happy that my tax dollars for the public schools allow someone to call themselves a "teacher" when they are not and they are getting paid money for it. If I was a teacher, I would be even more bothered by it.
Well, what do you think they should have to do? Be a fully qualified teacher? Why would someone want to complete the same qualifications as a teacher, but settle for being a sub?
 
Old 09-10-2011, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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Btw.. I have a very close family member in Western NY who does sub in her child's elementary school and is very open with the fact that the ONLY reason she does it is because it allows her to basically micromanage her children, she said she can keep an eye on who they have lunch with every day,and that last year, she was able to make out her Xmas cards when the kids wre at their "special" ( such as gym)...She has NO interest in really teaching, and if the job was not on her child's school, she would not have taken it.
 
Old 09-10-2011, 05:00 PM
 
Location: On a Satellite
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I don't choose books for my son based on ATOS, Lexile or anything else. HE chooses them based on what HE wants to read about. Some weeks it will be learning about trains, others it will be a Diary of a Wimpy Kid book, other times he gets books about history. He does very well in school.
Sounds like my house.
 
Old 09-10-2011, 05:00 PM
 
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This is going off subject for a minute but I would like to know how teachers feel about people coming in and doing their jobs (as subs) who are not qualified in the least to be doing so and then they say things like " oh, just get a job at the school, perfect hours and sometimes I don't even have to do anything but hand out assignments all day".
I have a hard time with the fact that really all someone has to do is take a civil service test, go though clearances and have a degree in whatever, to be able to teach our children when a teacher is out.
I then have a hard time hearing them say things like how easy it is,etc... I am not happy that my tax dollars for the public schools allow someone to call themselves a "teacher" when they are not and they are getting paid money for it. If I was a teacher, I would be even more bothered by it.
Where do you live, NYMD67? In my state, substitutes have the exact same education and certifications as full time teachers. Emergency certification is possible but a school district has to apply for that. Since there are plenty of properly educated and certified unemployed teachers in my state, there would be no reason for a school district to seek emergency certification for a substitute.
 
Old 09-10-2011, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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Well, what do you think they should have to do? Be a fully qualified teacher? Why would someone want to complete the same qualifications as a teacher, but settle for being a sub?
I don' t think they need to have a degree in education, but I think they need to take some type of certification class of some kind. A person with a degree in some liberal arts classes to me, is really not qualified to be teaching kids over the age of 5.... I also don't think they (subs) should be so free willing to say that it is easy money and that they only do it because the hours are perfect for them. I think there should be some genuine interest in teaching the kids....
 
Old 09-10-2011, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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Where do you live, NYMD67? In my state, substitutes have the exact same education and certifications as full time teachers. Emergency certification is possible but a school district has to apply for that. Since there are plenty of properly educated and certified unemployed teachers in my state, there would be no reason for a school district to seek emergency certification for a substitute.
I am not speaking about my state or district, I have a close family member who subs in NY and these are all things she says to me and to others. Our district DOES require you to have a degree in Education or similar in order to sub.... I am always bothered when she says that it is easy money,etc... Because I k ow I would not like having someone like that teach my children.
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