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Old 12-21-2011, 10:54 PM
 
Location: Wherever life takes me.
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LOL... hook, line, sinker!
Whatever idgaf, its my friday I have better things to do tonight than have you and beachedmel do you little piranha act and knaw at my patience.
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Old 12-21-2011, 11:00 PM
 
Location: TX
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I haven't been following this thread, and in the most general sense think there has to be a balance of privacy for teens, but I found this to be an interesting point. I suppose I would follow up with: adult employees are aware of the companies' policies. I would want the teen to be aware of any "household policies" rather than making it a covert op.
Absolutely. The only half-argument against "invading your kid's privacy" is that it is a violation of trust. If you have already let them know you'll be monitoring what they do online and on the phone, it becomes just another rule. You'll have your peace of mind and they'll get at least the respect enough to know what's going on.
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Old 12-21-2011, 11:01 PM
 
Location: Western Washington
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LOL... hook, line, sinker!

Saaaaaayyyyyy iiiiiit!! Fish ON!
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Old 12-22-2011, 08:04 AM
 
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People keep using this kind of example.
As an adult, what I do on my companies computer is nothing that would get me into trouble. I do what I need to do and I get my stuff done, yes I stream music at work and I go on facebook but its not affecting my work.

They don't naturally snoop, they aren't going to go through it just for the sake of going through it.

Employers and parents have very different reasons for checking.

My employers don't care if I am on facebook, my BOSS uses facebook at work, they don't care if I am talking to boys or if I might be sneaking out at night to go to a party. All they care about is if you are working or using the computer more.

My job isn't going to ground me and take away my cell phone because I lied about where I was going one night, you know out to the movies but really snuck off to a party, where as a parent would care.

Get my point?
Txtqueen, I know that I'm going off topic a bit but want to give you some words of advice. Please be very careful of what you do at work. It isn't a blank slate and your activities may not be as free from snooping as you may think. If you work in a corportate environment or finanial industry. ALL your emails or online activities are subject to scrutiny. I learned early on to be so very careful in what I say or do. If I am doing something very confidential, I do it from home on my computer.

My hubby is the network guy for his company and they do monitor--rigorously. He sees who visits porn sites, who is using company email for personal business, who is using FB, etc. Employees have been fired over online related things. He is in a financial industry and finally (for compliance), they now forbid FB, personal email, outgoing Twitter on company assets (that inside trading stuff ya know). People now use their own personal devices instead of company assets. Regardless though, the company was able to monitor each person's activity and how much time they spent on FB, etc. The results were pretty amazing---I forget what he told me but it was close to 30-50% of company time was spent on social sites. When they finally shut FB down, the outcry was horrendous.

Just be very careful, that's all I'm saying.
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Old 12-22-2011, 08:44 AM
 
Location: North America
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You obviously are not as old as I am, which is what I was saying.
I am 22, soon to be 23 within the next 8 1/2 months.

I am guessing you are younger. Which is EXACTLY what I was saying.
When I was younger we never had these issues on myspace or facebook.
In my group now, we don't have those issues. We may debate and argue things on Facebook but there certainly is no cyber bullying going on when it happens.

My brother is 5 years younger and it DOES happen within his group, A LOT.

Then again I was using social media when myspace was big and facebook didn't gain popularity like it has now until I was about 17 years old. This was in 2006.

BAHAHAHAHA no lol i'll be 26 in 6 days . But we all came from a website we used to frequen, in general the average age of girls on the group is probably around 18-20, a few of us are the old crones is all.
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Old 12-22-2011, 09:02 AM
 
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And the countdown to people saying "That will never happen to me because I'm so smart when I use FB" begins in 5...4...3...

Steelstress, that should scare every parent out there.
Just to clarify I meant "people" in the generic, real-world sense. That story will garner massive attention beyond the Santa Clarita Valley. So, no, I was not referring to just posters here.

(Please note I wrote "Every parent 'out there'". "Out there" meaning the world.)

I also passed this story along to several friends whose kids use social media. Just as a "heads up" from one parent to another. It's a very important story and lesson. Thanks for posting it steelstress.
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Old 12-22-2011, 10:06 AM
 
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Just to clarify I meant "people" in the generic, real-world sense. That story will garner massive attention beyond the Santa Clarita Valley. So, no, I was not referring to just posters here.

(Please note I wrote "Every parent 'out there'". "Out there" meaning the world.)

I also passed this story along to several friends whose kids use social media. Just as a "heads up" from one parent to another. It's a very important story and lesson. Thanks for posting it steelstress.
You're welcome.

Let's hope there are a few more parents who realize it's more important to check up on their kids than it is to "respect their privacy."

ETA: 4 more victims have been found... brings the count to 18. Just since yesterday.

Last edited by steelstress; 12-22-2011 at 10:08 AM.. Reason: to update number of victims.
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Old 12-22-2011, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Western Washington
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You're welcome.

Let's hope there are a few more parents who realize it's more important to check up on their kids than it is to "respect their privacy."

ETA: 4 more victims have been found... brings the count to 18. Just since yesterday.

OMG This is awful!! Thanks for the update SS...and good morning!
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Old 12-22-2011, 10:21 AM
 
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You're welcome.

Let's hope there are a few more parents who realize it's more important to check up on their kids than it is to "respect their privacy."

ETA: 4 more victims have been found... brings the count to 18. Just since yesterday.
That is just sickening. My guess is that there are a lot of parents who (sadly) wish they HAD checked up on what their kids were doing.
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Old 12-22-2011, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Lansing, MI
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That is just sickening. My guess is that there are a lot of parents who (sadly) wish they HAD checked up on what their kids were doing.

This is exactly what I mentioned yesterday evening in response to one of my posts -- since I'm all for keeping tabs on kids and what they do while using technology. Seems like I would be a "bad parent" for doing so?

My explanation on why we have a responsibility to know what kids are up to while using the internet vs. snooping in a diary or bedroom ......
...... If a child is depressed or on drugs, there is a significant behavorial change that is noticeable and a big, fat warning. There is no reason to go snooping through the bedroom unless the child gives a parent a reason to do so.
...... If a child is talking to a preditor online, there is no significant behavioral change that warns parents.

Parents, in may cases (and now we have a great example of at least 18 households ... ), won't know what is going on with their child's use of the computer or cell phone until it is too late.
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