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Old 01-05-2012, 12:28 PM
 
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I think refusing things that are "in" such as the DS systems, wii games, computers,etc.. For your kids is just ridiculous and again as in another thread started yesterday, parents are just trying to prove a point or something, that they aren't going to give in to the latest "trends".
That makes it sound like I'm doing it for spite,
or like one of those people who spout about been green or a vegan or whatever
just to sound morally superior to others rather than to follow a lifestyle they feel comfortable with.

I'm not taking this tack for that reason; I'm taking it because there are not many good reasons to do otherwise, as I said.
Some reason, like technological exposure and basic skill,
but not to the extent that it is regular or expected for many people, from what I see.
(Not necessarily many people on this thread, but in general. Just to clarify.)
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Old 01-05-2012, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Asheville NC
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Just because your children do not have access to Facebook, e-mail etc., does not mean they cannot be the target of online harassment or bullying, it just means they would not be aware of it themselves. Just a thought.


"If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?"

To be bullied you kind have to be aware of it.

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Old 01-05-2012, 12:43 PM
 
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It also talks about boys having a need for physical contact, such as the rough-and-tumble of a football game. So many physical games are replaced by "activities" on a screen. It's detrimental to development, attention span, and so on.

It really is a wonderful book and speaks to many of the points I bring up here.
This is a parenting issue. There are 24 hours in a day. There is time in a day to go to school, play physical games, watch tv, read and play video games. All in one day. Parents need to be parents and pay attention to their kids and what they are doing. Whether it is on a screen or in the backyard.
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Old 01-05-2012, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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"If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?"

To be bullied you kind have to be aware of it.
If 1000 kids on Facebook read disparaging remarks about someone, just because that someone may or may not have Facebook doesn't mean it's not going to affect them, or they are not going to be aware of it.
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Old 01-05-2012, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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That makes it sound like I'm doing it for spite,
or like one of those people who spout about been green or a vegan or whatever
just to sound morally superior to others rather than to follow a lifestyle they feel comfortable with.

I'm not taking this tack for that reason; I'm taking it because there are not many good reasons to do otherwise, as I said.
Some reason, like technological exposure and basic skill,
but not to the extent that it is regular or expected for many people, from what I see.
(Not necessarily many people on this thread, but in general. Just to clarify.)
I don't mean "you" specific, there just seems to be so much of this" my kids don't have this or that" or " I refuse to buy them this or that". I meant in general, I do not understand why people think this way.
At some point, the kids are going to have access to computers, to the video games or they are going to want this or that, as much as we, as their parents try to control it.

I would just not pay attention to those that "expect" your children to have email addresses of their own, you do what you are comfortable with as a family, but to not expose them to any of the things that are out there, in the end will hurt them.

I don't think any parent does anything to spite their children intentionally, I do think though that there are many out there who want to sound as their morals are more superior and that they are going to prove a point to other parents for some reason.
The problem with that is almost always, in the end, they end up looking like hypocrites (again, not anyone specific here, just generally speaking..).
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Old 01-05-2012, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Asheville NC
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If 1000 kids on Facebook read disparaging remarks about someone, just because that someone may or may not have Facebook doesn't mean it's not going to affect them, or they are not going to be aware of it.
I thought you said:

"Just because your children do not have access to Facebook, e-mail etc., does not mean they cannot be the target of online harassment or bullying, it just means they would not be aware of it themselves. Just a thought.
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Old 01-05-2012, 01:12 PM
 
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I don't mean "you" specific, there just seems to be so much of this" my kids don't have this or that" or " I refuse to buy them this or that". I meant in general, I do not understand why people think this way.
Oh sorry, I'd read your comment wrong, then.
My mistake.

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I don't think any parent does anything to spite their children intentionally, I do think though that there are many out there who want to sound as their morals are more superior and that they are going to prove a point to other parents for some reason.
I am reminded of the Gisele Bundchen quote "My son thinks broccoli is dessert!"
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Old 01-05-2012, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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I thought you said:

"Just because your children do not have access to Facebook, e-mail etc., does not mean they cannot be the target of online harassment or bullying, it just means they would not be aware of it themselves. Just a thought.
Should have written they won't see it themselves. They will be aware of it soon enough.
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Old 01-05-2012, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Back in MADISON Wi thank God!
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Because the question was asked, my kids are older-elementary age.
Ok, well, we all hopefully try to do what we think is right for our own family and children. I personally found a big change come middle school. I do think the Facebook issue is a concern, however, I do not forbid my 15 year old from going on. All you can do is stay involved, talk to them, and check up on them when you feel necessary.
I agree that young kids do not need email addresses or Facebook. At least they didn't in my family. Someone else may feel differently though.
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Old 01-05-2012, 01:47 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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My kids, ages 6 and 9, both have email addresses. They use email to communicate with their teachers occasionally, and more often to communicate with out-of-town relatives. My 9 year old has given her email address to her friends who say they use email, but none of them have ever emailed her.

I have their email accounts linked to mine, so that any email they receive comes to my inbox and I look over it first. Of course that will change when they get older.

My 6 year old plays games on Neopets. She used to play the Sesame Street games when she was younger.

They don't have their own computers...we all share one, and they each have their own user account on it. Their user accounts are set to turn off at 10 pm and not work again until 7am, so nobody can get up during the night and get online.
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