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Old 02-03-2012, 05:52 PM
 
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When asked for facts, peer review studies, something, you give an article full of unsubstantiated, coincidental anecdote. I begin to think you just don't know the difference.

 
Old 02-03-2012, 05:55 PM
 
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"Judicial Watch" recorded data directly from VAERS. Stating that these are "FDA Records" is a gross distortion. The details are entered into VAERS by anyone, that does not make them "FDA Records" however much you want that to be so. As has already been stated numerous times, VAERS is a passive recording system. This linked article is so grossly innacurate I should be laughing, but honestly it makes me steaming mad as people don't understand it's an irresponsible misrepresentation of the truth, and most importantly people are making health decisions for their children using articles such as this.

It is an accurate and responsible representation of the truth it is intended to represent. Unsubstantiated reports that can say nothing of causation or correlation.
 
Old 02-03-2012, 05:58 PM
 
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http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/recs/acip/downloads/min-oct11.txt (broken link)


Approximately halfway down on this document is found that 71 deaths have been received by VAERS. Of them, 34 have been verified and 32 of them were female.

Median age was 17.

Median time from innoculation to Death was 15 days.

15 of them had received only Dose 1
8 deaths were after Dose 2
11 Deaths were after Dose 3

Of the above deaths, 15 of them received only the HPV.
13 of them received comcomitant vaccinations. (the other 6 fall into what category??)

After "clinical Review" -
7 were classified as Neurological deaths
7 as cardiac deaths ( arrhythmia-3, myocarditis-3)
4 as Pulmonary Embolism
5 as infectious, MRSA, Strep and Vasculitis
4 as non-infectious, suicide, drug overdose, dermatomyositis
7 Unexplained cause of Death

Not even autopsy could confirm or deny if the HPV had anything to do with these unexplained deaths.

Note that no one has been able to prove either way, if the Vaccine caused the neurological deaths, cardiac deaths, pulmonary deaths....as well as the unexplained ones.


I bet the parents know~

No doctor that's worth a thing would give a vaccination, especially a new one to a person that was not in very good health BEFORE doing so....hmmm.....so this many died within a couple of weeks of the shot, and some after more than one HPV Shot.

Yeah, I see where this is pointing.
 
Old 02-03-2012, 06:00 PM
 
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Tylenol had 348 deaths last year. Just saying...
 
Old 02-03-2012, 06:02 PM
 
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All I believe is that had I had that shot when I was younger I wouldn't be in the position I was in when I was 20. It's not fun having to put chemotherapy cream inside of my vagina and crying because everything hurt so much I can't even go to the bathroom. But hey, 95% it won't get bad right? My body will fight it off right? No biggie...
I thought I'd post this again since I don't think you saw it the first time. I know you are a big fan of anecdotal evidence. So here's mine! Would you like me to make a blog to make it more credible?
 
Old 02-03-2012, 06:04 PM
 
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I thought I'd post this again since I don't think you saw it the first time. I know you are a big fan of anecdotal evidence. So here's mine! Would you like me to make a blog to make it more credible?
If you are talking to me, Ohio, yes! Please do so, and then do you want me to bring literally thousands of anecdotal evidence about the kids and the entire families that have had their lives permanently altered in very bad ways?! I can....but I won't do that to the forum.

I have anecdotes to fill volumes!
 
Old 02-03-2012, 06:10 PM
 
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http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/recs/acip/downloads/min-oct11.txt (broken link)


Approximately halfway down on this document is found that 71 deaths have been received by VAERS. Of them, 34 have been verified and 32 of them were female.
Verified as what? Dead?
 
Old 02-03-2012, 06:11 PM
 
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If you are talking to me, Ohio, yes! Please do so, and then do you want me to bring literally thousands of anecdotal evidence about the kids and the entire families that have had their lives permanently altered in very bad ways?! I can....but I won't do that to the forum.

I have anecdotes to fill volumes!
I have anecdotes to fill volumes that Martians landed at Roswell.
 
Old 02-03-2012, 06:12 PM
 
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Thank you for this confirmation. This makes governors like my own, beloved state's "Perry" even more peculiar and guilty! Dang him.....he sure did push the thing later than that. The newsstory about him doing so, and getting himself "put in his place" by the citizens of Texas broke in the news much more recently than '07.

Makes me wonder just WHO and what got Perry to make such a huge mistake.

Nope, am correcting myself. Perry indeed signed the EO of his way back in '07! He, however was in the news since then, and on several occasions because of the bruhaha over it, and rightly so.

Merck did a lot of damage with their lobbying by '07, obviously.
Perry, who has never been my favorite person, did the right thing for the wrong reason.
 
Old 02-03-2012, 06:14 PM
 
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If you are talking to me, Ohio, yes! Please do so, and then do you want me to bring literally thousands of anecdotal evidence about the kids and the entire families that have had their lives permanently altered in very bad ways?! I can....but I won't do that to the forum.

I have anecdotes to fill volumes!

So my life wasn't permanently altered in a very bad way? Covering your ears and saying "I CAN'T HEAR YOU" doesn't chance the fact that my life was "altered in a very bad way" by HPV. I think you are discounting the effects of HPV to make your "big bad vaccine" stories seem more real. What about the people who die of cervical cancer? What about girls who had to have hysterectomies at 25? What about them? Is their life not "altered in a really bad way".

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