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Old 09-08-2007, 08:29 AM
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I'm sure most of the women who breastfeed aren't like this, but it's really disgusting that ANYONE would use their "right" to breastfeed, to display their body in an inappropriate way.

I do agree, that most of these type incidents are attention-seeking.

After all, if a woman was nursing in public, AND doing it discreetly, most people wouldn't even be able to tell that she was breastfeeding.
Well, yes! I am not obsessed with this as another poster suggested. I only really started getting agitated when they passed a law last year in a nearby town. The "victims" of the world are getting out of hand. The law came about because a woman was asked to cover up in a bookstore. I read a few accounts that she was making a big deal about it and provoking the encounter. Probably whipped that law card out, too.

So, this is what riles me up. The lack of common sense, acting like a victim when you are not, being militant about stupid things. I think breast feeding is fine, the militancy is stupid.
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Old 09-08-2007, 11:13 AM
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I'm sure most of the women who breastfeed aren't like this, but it's really disgusting that ANYONE would use their "right" to breastfeed, to display their body in an inappropriate way.

I do agree, that most of these type incidents are attention-seeking.

After all, if a woman was nursing in public, AND doing it discreetly, most people wouldn't even be able to tell that she was breastfeeding.
sundance, perhaps you are speaking of women who are mentally disturbed. I haven't seen anyone who flashed their breast before breastfeeding for "attention" - I think they are the exception and not the rule. Maybe I'm too busy minding my own business to be a part of the breastfeeding gestapo.
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Old 09-08-2007, 11:59 AM
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sundance, perhaps you are speaking of women who are mentally disturbed. I haven't seen anyone who flashed their breast before breastfeeding for "attention" - I think they are the exception and not the rule. Maybe I'm too busy minding my own business to be a part of the breastfeeding gestapo.
Meeeeoooooowwwwwwwwwww.......!!!!! LOL.

Well, for sure you're not too busy reading my post...because I also said that the MAJORITY (i.e., "most"), of breastfeeding women probably aren't that way................
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Old 09-08-2007, 01:06 PM
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Meeeeoooooowwwwwwwwwww.......!!!!! LOL.

Well, for sure you're not too busy reading my post...because I also said that the MAJORITY (i.e., "most"), of breastfeeding women probably aren't that way................
"I do agree, that most of these type incidents are attention-seeking."

Okay, so you didn't write this as well?

You support breastfeeding as long as you don't see a breast. Okay, that makes sooo much sense.
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Old 09-08-2007, 07:24 PM
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"I do agree, that most of these type incidents are attention-seeking."

Okay, so you didn't write this as well?

You support breastfeeding as long as you don't see a breast. Okay, that makes sooo much sense.
I think the poster was referring to most of the "making a big deal" incidents being attention seeking.

As to the gestapo like tactics....I think it's the militant breast feeders that fit that mold more than the people that are just glaring at over the top behavior. Or a manager of a retail establishment that politely asks a woman to be more modest as he sees his customers flee.

And, I think I said it was my right to tell a woman to cover up. That was wrong and I would never do it. Don't even know why I wrote it. I do mind my own business, but like the lady in the French restaurant, who was next to me on a banquette....that was so obvious a bid for attention. I kept moving over to just get as far away as possible. It was loud, and quite gross. I thought my husband was going to be ill...even though he only looked the one time. The slurping, sucking and smacking sounds were very loud. Not to mention the "oh, Stewart is really, really hungry", said over and over, ad nauseum in a very loud voice. But I did eventually glare, as was everyone else that lost their appetite (i.e., the entire room).

The other example of the woman in the bookstore. I think it was a very large Barnes and Noble and no, she did not find a nice quiet chair and do feed her baby. She sat on the long bench at the very busy magazine rack where there were 20 guys at least looking at the latest Maxim out. She was a loud talker and a cooer and drove those guys away in a hurry. And she totally exposed her big white veiny breast for all to enjoy. Not. Again, gross behavior.

If it is a law, they can do it. The women that are immodest and militant will continue to get glares.

And, sorry if it wasn't you that said if a woman did this behavior, she was mentally ill....maybe, I guess some are....but to me it really does look like they are needing the community to gush a little over them. Who knows if I'm right or wrong.

And another feeling....why is one person's desire (or 2 if you include the baby) more important than the other 80 people in the restaurant who are made uncomfortable. I just don't understand this selfishness, or the me, me, me attitude. Let alone the lack of modesty. But, just my opinion.
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I just don't understand this selfishness, or the me, me, me attitude.
Yet you are the one who thinks that your comfort level trumps the needs of the nursing mother and child. There is no "right" for you not to be offended, yet the nursing mother does have a right under the law to breastfeed in public. But you still think that your comfort level is most important somehow.

I have nursed my daughter in public many, many times, but have only had a negative comment once. Every other time, people either didn't notice, didn't care, or were supportive. So the folks that are offended do not seem to be the majority at all. So I should make myself and my baby definitely uncomfortable all the time based on the remote possibility that someone like you will be present that time and feel uncomfortable?
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I kept moving over to just get as far away as possible. It was loud, and quite gross. I thought my husband was going to be ill...even though he only looked the one time. The slurping, sucking and smacking sounds were very loud. Not to mention the "oh, Stewart is really, really hungry", said over and over, ad nauseum in a very loud voice. But I did eventually glare, as was everyone else that lost their appetite (i.e., the entire room).
That is just disgusting.
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I think the poster was referring to most of the "making a big deal" incidents being attention seeking.

As to the gestapo like tactics....I think it's the militant breast feeders that fit that mold more than the people that are just glaring at over the top behavior. Or a manager of a retail establishment that politely asks a woman to be more modest as he sees his customers flee.

And, I think I said it was my right to tell a woman to cover up. That was wrong and I would never do it. Don't even know why I wrote it. I do mind my own business, but like the lady in the French restaurant, who was next to me on a banquette....that was so obvious a bid for attention. I kept moving over to just get as far away as possible. It was loud, and quite gross. I thought my husband was going to be ill...even though he only looked the one time. The slurping, sucking and smacking sounds were very loud. Not to mention the "oh, Stewart is really, really hungry", said over and over, ad nauseum in a very loud voice. But I did eventually glare, as was everyone else that lost their appetite (i.e., the entire room).

The other example of the woman in the bookstore. I think it was a very large Barnes and Noble and no, she did not find a nice quiet chair and do feed her baby. She sat on the long bench at the very busy magazine rack where there were 20 guys at least looking at the latest Maxim out. She was a loud talker and a cooer and drove those guys away in a hurry. And she totally exposed her big white veiny breast for all to enjoy. Not. Again, gross behavior.

If it is a law, they can do it. The women that are immodest and militant will continue to get glares.

And, sorry if it wasn't you that said if a woman did this behavior, she was mentally ill....maybe, I guess some are....but to me it really does look like they are needing the community to gush a little over them. Who knows if I'm right or wrong.

And another feeling....why is one person's desire (or 2 if you include the baby) more important than the other 80 people in the restaurant who are made uncomfortable. I just don't understand this selfishness, or the me, me, me attitude. Let alone the lack of modesty. But, just my opinion.
Okay Emonellie, you are entitled to your opinion. You should really take it on a case by case basis and try to ignore it (even the women who want "attention" as that only eggs them on).
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What is wrong with a bit of a modest cover-up? The whole "all or nothing" in your face attitude is almost always a recipe for a needless (and largely distracting) fight when simple compromise would have worked quite well.

A blanket or a napkin as a cover up takes an extra 2 seconds and solves 99% of the problem (most folks other than mothers probably won't even know what you are doing). This isn't asking you to go sit in the back of the bus, it's asking you to make a tiny sliver of change to avoid a bigger problem.

I know that breast-feeding is a natural, healthy thing that (I've been told) feels kinda good and satisfying, but so is taking a nice, big, steaming dump and you don't see people doing that in full view of everyone else (and even if there wasn't any *ahem* evidence or health hazard left at the scene, I doubt folks would be in favor of public 'squat ins').

I think the comparison to a smoker blowing a puff into a non-smoker's face when outside is a pretty good one. Sure, smoking is bad, but one puff of second-hand smoke outside really has no added health risk, but it sure is annoying, and of course, perfectly legal.

If you still don't like the smoking analogy, how about this... I have a constitutionally protected right to free speech (something that just about everyone thinks we should keep around), which means I could come up to eight-year olds with their mothers in the mall and start telling them what an awful, evil person their mom is, making up as many nasty details as I wanted (and unless you could prove a direct financial hardship as a result, I couldn't even get sued for slander). But I wouldn't (even if all the bad things were true - Britney Spears, I'm looking in your general direction). Why? because I have made the personal choice that I don't need to always exercise my constitutional rights when it can ruin someone else's day and really doesn't give me any benefit. Is there a health risk of smothering or something that I am unaware of from covering up the child (or at least making an honest attempt) while they are at the mammary gland?
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I noticed several of the state codes include this phrase:
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provided that she "acts in a discreet and modest way."
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