The long term effects of spanking and slapping (out of control, playing, child)
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There's a difference between spanking and beating your kids. Giving your child a swat on the bottom when the situation is appropriate is NOT abuse. However, beating them with a belt out of anger and frustration IS abuse.
So? There's a difference between giving them too much salt and too much alcohol as well. Doesn't make giving them too much salt a good idea. And actually, the emotional state of the parent at the time of punishment has nothing to do with defining 'abuse'.
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Originally Posted by 90sman
When I have kids, I will be spanking them when they need it.
Would you mind being more specific?
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Originally Posted by 90sman
People pushing stuff like this to be "softer" on the youths are one of the reasons why children today are so misbehaved and selfish because parents don't give their children a firm hand and let them know right from wrong.
No, children are misbehaved because they just flat get away with things. The method of discipline matters only in that we should consider what a child values most when picking a punishment. But, I should hope, no one's raising their kids so they only understand and appreciate pain...
Children are selfish when they are constantly given things they could do without, are not taught to share, and are given things when they demand them instead of asking.
There are plenty of parents who teach their children right from wrong and how to be respectful and responsible without spanking. There are ways to be effective and authoritative without using spanking as a discipline tool. I'm not anti-spanking (though I don't spank), but assuming misbehavior and selfishness is a result of not being spanked seems like a huge over-generalization of questionable accuracy.
I didn't say it was THE reason, I said it's one of the reasons.
Another thing about spanking is that when parents use this method, they should explain to their child the reasoning for being spanked and explain to them what they did was wrong. This is something I notice many parents don't do.
Another thing about spanking is that when parents use this method, they should explain to their child the reasoning for being spanked and explain to them what they did was wrong. This is something I notice many parents don't do.
I actually wonder if that's the common denominator for effective teaching/discipline, regardless of whether the strategy is time out or spanking or something else: explanation, being clear on what the consequence is being administered for, and helping the child to figure out what to do differently next time.
Says the man who clearly knows nothing about Buddhism. This is once again the most useless thread topic ever. Every tom, dick and ****head comes in from nowhere with their non-opinion.
Another thing about spanking is that when parents use this method, they should explain to their child the reasoning for being spanked and explain to them what they did was wrong. This is something I notice many parents don't do.
At very least, yes. My mom did this with me and I think it's what made all the difference, to be honest with you. My cousins would always say the worst thing about my mom's spankings wasn't the spanking (apparently, they were hit MUCH harder and for longer durations), but the lectures she would give both before and after.
News, Spanking kids can cause long-term harm: Canada study.
TORONTO (Reuters) - Spanking children can cause long-term developmental damage and may even lower a child's IQ, according to a new Canadian analysis that seeks to shift the ethical debate over corporal punishment into the medical sphere.
The study, published this week in the Canadian Medical Association Journal, reached its conclusion after examining 20 years of published research on the issue.
Spanking kids can cause long-term harm: Canada study (http://health.yahoo.net/news/s/nm/spanking-kids-can-cause-long-term-harm-canada-study - broken link)
I agree with you. Not everyone who chooses spanking, but a lot of the vocal pro-spanking contingent, seem to focus on when interventions like time-outs are incorrectly applied. When used appropriately and consistently, time outs or other behavioral interventions require no bribery, no negotiation, no cajoling, and no reasoning. It makes me wonder why there isn't more of a call for parents to use these techniques properly, rather than throwing the baby out with the bathwater, so to speak.
Well-I think both sides are pretty all or nothing. It's not as if there are only two ways to discipline a child. I have to say that I didn't spank my kids, nor did I ever use time outs. I am far more creative than that.
The all or nothing approach seems to run both ways. Why are people against spanking so quick to judge those who do spank as abusers? Hitting, slapping, beating, violence? Really?
I agree that the all or nothing approach runs both ways. All or nothing thinking is rarely productive.
I personally do not think that people who spank are abusers, but I don't see how you can escape that it is violent to hit another person. You cannot pretend that spanking is not violent. I can understand that you may feel that the violence is justified. I can respect that, but it is still violence.
I agree that the all or nothing approach runs both ways. All or nothing thinking is rarely productive.
I personally do not think that people who spank are abusers, but I don't see how you can escape that it is violent to hit another person. You cannot pretend that spanking is not violent. I can understand that you may feel that the violence is justified. I can respect that, but it is still violence.
Victims of actual violence might disagree. Bruises, whelps, broken bones or worse. An open palm across a childs posterior should not result in anything close to that.
I agree that the all or nothing approach runs both ways. All or nothing thinking is rarely productive.
I personally do not think that people who spank are abusers, but I don't see how you can escape that it is violent to hit another person. You cannot pretend that spanking is not violent. I can understand that you may feel that the violence is justified. I can respect that, but it is still violence.
Speaking of violence, we should get rid of video games, movies, music, or anything that relates to violence. Maybe that might lower our crime statistics.
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