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Old 03-06-2012, 05:17 AM
 
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What country do you live in? The constitution doesn't just apply to public spaces lol.
Now you are talking about Constitutional rights? You have got to be kidding me! This thread is about CELLPHONES, which, by the way, is not a Constitutional right. And speaking of Constitutional right, it is your Constitutional right to bear arms, one I help defend when I served my country for almost 8yrs, but I will be damned if a parent brings over one of their guns to my home
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Old 03-06-2012, 05:31 AM
 
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What country do you live in? The constitution doesn't just apply to public spaces lol.
There is a divide between public and private spaces in the consitution and our laws. Like I said, I don't have the right to enter your home without your permission or to insist I do so with muddy shoes or in any other way that you deem unacceptable. Do I? If I say my home is a cell phone free zone then I can enforce that in my house, just like you can enforce no muddy shoes, no smoking or no swearing.
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Old 03-06-2012, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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This would seem like an extreme overreaction to me.

I don't like cell phones all that much but I do acknowledge that there is a place for them at certain times. A nine year old being away from home for the first time is one of them. By the way, I've come to learn that my daughter was not the only child who took a cell phone to the party, and we were not the only parents who were taken aback by the rule. At least two other kids had them, and I only consulted with three of the other parents.

I'm sorry that this thread was moved from the Long Island board because I think that the reaction would have been different. How safe you feel at any point in time has a great deal to do with where you are standing. Some of our viewpoints on this may differ. I'm also sorry that this turned into such a heated debate, but frankly I found some of the responses to be so off the wall that I felt the need to respond as I did. I will simply state my final opinion on the matter and then leave it alone.

Cell phones whether you like them or not in your home, are in fact legal. There are times admittedly, that they are innappropriate. But even in the instances where their use is innappropriate, such as a movie theatre or concert hall, the patrons are asked to turn their cell phone off until they leave the theater. They are not prohibited from carrying them inside. Even on an airplane, passengers are instructed to turn off all electronic devices until the captain says they can be used again. But they are not prohibited from being brought on board. Whether you have a bias against cell phones or not, they are going to become increasingly prevalent in our society as time goes on. I for one don't care for all the texting and photographing and what not, but my daughter wasn't going to do any of that anyway. She simply had a way to contact us if she got frightened without bothering anyone else at the sleepover, including the parents who might be sleeping.

I thank you for all of your time and thoughtful opinions.
Well, this whole situation does sound very Long Island to me (it's where I'm from, still visit quite a lot). If there was time to consult with other parents and C-D prior to sending your daughter with the cell phone, then there was time to exercise some simple courtesy and just speak to the host mom beforehand.
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Old 03-06-2012, 06:38 AM
 
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This would seem like an extreme overreaction to me.

I don't like cell phones all that much but I do acknowledge that there is a place for them at certain times.
This has nothing to do with cell phones or rules about cell phone. I have no opinion whatsoever about this rule. But I will tell you that a child who thinks that they get to decide which of my house rules they will follow and which they will not will not be welcome in my home. I cannot ever know what other rules they will chose to ignore. I will not be responsible for the safety of a guest who chooses to ignore my rules.

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A nine year old being away from home for the first time is one of them.
Then the onus is on YOU that child's parent to decide that it is inappropriate for your child to attend that sleepover not for the hosting parent to accept that child ignoring his or her rules.
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Old 03-06-2012, 06:54 AM
 
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Dealbreaker for my girls. I've had plenty of sleepovers. I don't care if the girls bring their cellphones. If fact, I encourage it.
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Old 03-06-2012, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Hyrule
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I think taking the cell phones away to prevent pictures being taken and posted is wise actually. Assuming there is a home phone, the kids can use that if they need to make calls.
Ya, you know this is becoming a issue socially for me as well. Yes, I can say no Facebook page for you, none of my family have a facebook or the like, I can trust my own kids to not photo others and put them on the internet or fast forward on the cel but I can't control others kids or parents for that matter.

I have a friend whom I hated attending her parties because she films and takes pics of the whole event and posts it to youtube and her facebook. I don't go anymore because I hate it.

I agree, theres a home phone, get the number or have her call you before bed and check in. It's better than seeing her boobs on facebook at a later date. I just hate the new social internet crap. Yes, it's personal so we don't do it and avoid people who do. I'm not famous, I shouldn't have to worry about my ugly face showing up in the media. It's really rude to post others pictures or movies of them on a public site without asking them first but people do it alllllllll the time. Because of their abuse parents are starting to ask people to leave their cameras, and phones at home.

Now, it's another issue if the parent is just trying to make your child more friendly. If it's because of texting and not being friendly then she should just not invite her. Controlling others behavior for those reasons is odd. But I have a feeling it's the growing rude trend of pasting everything on youtube like your kids undies or weird party moments your kid might not want shared.
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Old 03-06-2012, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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The no electronics rule is not new. I'm surprised people with children in the 8 to 12 age range are acting so surprised about it. My kids have been on sleep-over camps, and Boy Scouts camps that have a strict no electronics rule, which includes cell phones. The kids have access to a phone 24/7 should they need it. I think the reasons are varied, liability for loss, inappropriate use, selling them, etc.

We have questioned this rule in the past (before the events) when my son has attended camps far from home, as my son has health issues, and a joint decision was made by all parties that it would be best if my son carried a cell phone. He knows why, and it stays in his backpack in the case of an emergency. For sleepovers the landline or host parent cell phone is fine.
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Old 03-06-2012, 08:36 AM
 
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Ya, you know this is becoming a issue socially for me as well. Yes, I can say no Facebook page for you, none of my family have a facebook or the like, I can trust my own kids to not photo others and put them on the internet or fast forward on the cel but I can't control others kids or parents for that matter.

I have a friend whom I hated attending her parties because she films and takes pics of the whole event and posts it to youtube and her facebook. I don't go anymore because I hate it.

I agree, theres a home phone, get the number or have her call you before bed and check in. It's better than seeing her boobs on facebook at a later date. I just hate the new social internet crap. Yes, it's personal so we don't do it and avoid people who do. I'm not famous, I shouldn't have to worry about my ugly face showing up in the media. It's really rude to post others pictures or movies of them on a public site without asking them first but people do it alllllllll the time. Because of their abuse parents are starting to ask people to leave their cameras, and phones at home.

Now, it's another issue if the parent is just trying to make your child more friendly. If it's because of texting and not being friendly then she should just not invite her. Controlling others behavior for those reasons is odd. But I have a feeling it's the growing rude trend of pasting everything on youtube like your kids undies or weird party moments your kid might not want shared.
Good points.
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Old 03-07-2012, 11:00 AM
 
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I only read thru the first page and 1/2 and was floored by the number of mothers who would not allow their child to go to a sleep over without constant access to their cell phone. Im from the pre cell phone era and cant imagine why teens and pre teens need to be plugged in 24/7. If it were me, I would also have a no cell rule. I've had groups of teens over around the fire pit when my gson is with me and 3/4 of them will be carrying on "conversations" with ppl on their cells. Whats the point of getting together with friends, sleepovers, camp fires if you dont even communicate with those you are with. Might as well stay home and text all your friends from your own room.
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Old 03-07-2012, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Wherever life takes me.
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Ya, you know this is becoming a issue socially for me as well. Yes, I can say no Facebook page for you, none of my family have a facebook or the like, I can trust my own kids to not photo others and put them on the internet or fast forward on the cel but I can't control others kids or parents for that matter.

I have a friend whom I hated attending her parties because she films and takes pics of the whole event and posts it to youtube and her facebook. I don't go anymore because I hate it.

I agree, theres a home phone, get the number or have her call you before bed and check in. It's better than seeing her boobs on facebook at a later date. I just hate the new social internet crap. Yes, it's personal so we don't do it and avoid people who do. I'm not famous, I shouldn't have to worry about my ugly face showing up in the media. It's really rude to post others pictures or movies of them on a public site without asking them first but people do it alllllllll the time. Because of their abuse parents are starting to ask people to leave their cameras, and phones at home.

Now, it's another issue if the parent is just trying to make your child more friendly. If it's because of texting and not being friendly then she should just not invite her. Controlling others behavior for those reasons is odd. But I have a feeling it's the growing rude trend of pasting everything on youtube like your kids undies or weird party moments your kid might not want shared.
Oh the horrors!!!!!!!!!
Someone taking pictures and videos of an event so they can capture and share those memories.

Why are you so bothered about someone seeing a picture of you or you in a video?
My swim team did that in high school, they got me in a horrible picture where my hair was wet and make-up smeared and making some funny face after I had gotten out of the pool, instead of having an aneurysm I laughed it off.

Do you have a horn growing from your head or something?
A tail maybe?
Did you hair get cut in the dark?
I doubt you're ugly, so what's the big deal?

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