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View Poll Results: What do you think of my parents?
They aren't that bad, ease up 21 35.00%
Aren't the best parents in the world but they are not the worst either 33 55.00%
Ya, you have some bad parents 3 5.00%
YOUR PARENTS ARE REALLY REALLY BAD! 3 5.00%
Voters: 60. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-13-2012, 05:13 PM
 
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That was my normal. .
Exactly. It's what is normal and works for a particular family.

Txtqueen, I've said this before: You have a very limited amount of experience in "the world". It's good to have ideas but to be your age and think everyone should parent one way, which is the way YOU think is right, is pretty limiting. I'd urge you to accept that there are other ways of doing things. The world is made up of all kinds of people and all kinds of families.

Hopefully, someday, you'll see that and come to appreciate it.

 
Old 03-13-2012, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Wherever life takes me.
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Exactly. It's what is normal and works for a particular family.

Txtqueen, I've said this before: You have a very limited amount of experience in "the world". It's good to have ideas but to be your age and think everyone should parent one way, which is the way YOU think is right, is pretty limiting. I'd urge you to accept that there are other ways of doing things. The world is made up of all kinds of people and all kinds of families.

Hopefully, someday, you'll see that and come to appreciate it.
Yeah all the while I have to deal with the worlds wonderful stoic people.
 
Old 03-13-2012, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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Yeah all the while I have to deal with the worlds wonderful stoic people.
Yes, and this is all about YOU!!! And just what's wrong with stoic people? We get the job done.

Seriously, I've seen more damage done by emotional parents than unemotional parents. Unemotional parents seem to be able to get the job done even when it's not easy.

We have a whole generation of kids who were raised being told how special they are who are shocked when the world does not treat them special. My mom told me to suck it up and deal with it. That has served me much better than hugs, kisses and being told how wonderful I am.

When I was a kid, my mom told me what to do because I was a kid and I didn't know what to do. I actually wish my mom had done more telling me what to do not less. She let me make my own mistakes, as a teen, (then told me to clean up the mess I'd made) and I wish I had do overs on some of those. I wish my parents had pushed me to do better in school, to go to college and to pick a decent major (I doubt I would have at 18 or 19 on my own as I really needed to grow up to see the value of going down certain paths.)
 
Old 03-13-2012, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Wherever life takes me.
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Yes, and this is all about YOU!!! And just what's wrong with stoic people? We get the job done.

Seriously, I've seen more damage done by emotional parents than unemotional parents. Unemotional parents seem to be able to get the job done even when it's not easy.

We have a whole generation of kids who were raised being told how special they are who are shocked when the world does not treat them special. My mom told me to suck it up and deal with it. That has served me much better than hugs, kisses and being told how wonderful I am.

When I was a kid, my mom told me what to do because I was a kid and I didn't know what to do. I actually wish my mom had done more telling me what to do not less. She let me make my own mistakes, as a teen, (then told me to clean up the mess I'd made) and I wish I had do overs on some of those. I wish my parents had pushed me to do better in school, to go to college and to pick a decent major (I doubt I would have at 18 or 19 on my own as I really needed to grow up to see the value of going down certain paths.)
Dealing with emotionless people is not easy and no one should have to do it.
It seems like there is no compassion and no understanding with them, no mercy.

I think our world DOES NEED a little more kindness and compassion.
 
Old 03-13-2012, 07:29 PM
 
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Yeah all the while I have to deal with the worlds wonderful stoic people.
Part of being an adult in knowing you have to deal with all sorts of people. And then learning how to deal with them. No one has to change just because you don't like it.

Darn, txtqueen. You were doing so well on this thread. Now you are right back to complaining and making it all about you.
 
Old 03-13-2012, 07:30 PM
 
Location: In a house
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To do is to be - Descartes
To be is to do - Sartre
Dewbie, Dewbie, Dew - Sinatra

You forgot:

Not to be: Neitzsche
Be not: ancient Zen wisdom
 
Old 03-13-2012, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Nebraska
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The worst parents I've known? Let's see.

There was the woman who had 10 kids (her husband got a vasectomy after kid 6, but, well...) and was so proud to be on Welfare and get $10,000 a year in her tax return. When she was busted for her, her husband, and her boyfriends' posting kiddie porn (with her own children, including the 9-month-old) on the internet, she got her kids all back in three months and was cleared of all charges - because the social worker testified in her defense that she was too ignorant to know any better. Her oldest child escaped the family when he was 16 and got married, the rest stayed at home with Mom and have all spent time in prison - three for molestation of neighborhood children, the rest for prostitution and drug sales.

Don't like that one? How about the mother of the 11-year-old who encouraged her boyfriend to molest her and bear a child to add to their Welfare check?

Maybe this one - the 14-year-old who was pregnant with her second child, and her mother shrugged and said - "I don't know who got her pregnant this time - her boyfriend or mine!"

The man who got custody of his son, beat him, padlocked him in his room with bars on his windows every night, who sent him to school without a coat or hat in the dead of winter, who only had three changes of clothes for him, who wouldn't allow him sheets on his bed or even a pillow "because he would just get them dirty" - and then wondered why the child attacked him with a butcher knife.

The mother who decided that she was gay, and kept her son with her (his father didn't want him). When she left her latest girlfriend, she forced her son to load her truck with all of the ex-girlfriend's furniture as well as her own - when the ex-girlfriend called the police, the boy's mother said, "HE took it all - I didn't even know about it!" - and her 14 year old boy spent six weeks in jail while his mother went on vacation with her new girlfriend.

How about the mother who married a new boyfriend and, when he was arrested by the FBI for putting child porn on the internet, and it turned out that some of his underage victims were her own daughters, she - kicked her own daughters out of the house and took her husband back in when he got out of federal prison.

Some of these kids ended up with me as foster children, some I treated as an EMT, and some I just held in my arms at the police stations while they cried their hearts out.

Some of the spoiled brats on this thread whining about how everything is all of their mean ol' parents' fault, and how they are so abused, are either liars, whiners, or simple-minded, and have literally no idea what "abuse" is. And they should thank their God on their knees that they don't.
 
Old 03-13-2012, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Chapel Hill, N.C.
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Exactly. It's what is normal and works for a particular family.

Txtqueen, I've said this before: You have a very limited amount of experience in "the world". It's good to have ideas but to be your age and think everyone should parent one way, which is the way YOU think is right, is pretty limiting. I'd urge you to accept that there are other ways of doing things. The world is made up of all kinds of people and all kinds of families.

Hopefully, someday, you'll see that and come to appreciate it.
dew you are way too kind, patient and level headed. Sometimes I try but I get so frustrated and swear never to engage her again.
 
Old 03-13-2012, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Nebraska
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Oh, wait, here's the worst one - the mother who left her 3 month old and four year old alone in their house while she went out with her girlfriend to hook up - and the four year old got ahold of her matches and caught the drapes on fire. The apartment burned out completely, and the firefighters found both children hiding under the mothers' bed where the four-year-old had dragged his brother out of the crib. Have you ever done CPR on a 4-year-old burn victim while his skin came off on your hands as you worked on him?

That one gave us all nightmares for months....

No, some whiners have literally no idea what "abuse" is.
 
Old 03-13-2012, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Wherever life takes me.
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Part of being an adult in knowing you have to deal with all sorts of people. And then learning how to deal with them. No one has to change just because you don't like it.

Darn, txtqueen. You were doing so well on this thread. Now you are right back to complaining and making it all about you.
I do deal with these people.
I know how to deal with them.

I just think the world should be a kinder more compassionate place.
Not everyone has to change who they are for someone else but I can have my own opinion on how I think people should be raised with emotion and compassion so they turn out to be people who are kind and caring.
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