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Old 06-08-2012, 11:07 AM
 
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Nah, zombie apocalypse sounds more likely to me.
I second zombie apocalypse.
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Old 06-08-2012, 11:26 AM
 
Location: In my skin
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Default Let's turn the tables....

No one wants their kids to have to be disciplined. No one wants them hurt. As a mother, I get that. However, some of you saying you would never tolerate it seems unrealistic and irresponsible. As a mother, that stuns me. Your kids are not the only ones with rights. And your child's comfort comes before mine, because he/she is a child, only for so long.

I don't necessarily agree with what happened in the theater, but I can certainly understand his reaction.

Since the question is "Would you approve of a stranger physically disciplining your child if you aren't around?", let's entertain a couple of scenarios. It's a general question so it could mean just about anything. And remember, if it is wrong, it is wrong.

I mentioned this before. A ten year old kid walks up to you and just proceeds to kick you, elbow you in the head, etc, just for fun. What do you do? Do you just sit there and take it? Do you go running to the manager? Or do you grab that kid and hold him down until he stops? That is physical discipline, isn't it? And, what if, in the process, you bruise him? Is he still a poor little victim?

What if you just dropped your child off at school and a 10 year old strolls up and points mommy's new boyfriend's gun at him/her? Do you wait in your car for mom and dad to show up and discipline him? Do you wait until he shoots your kid and then run to the principle's office? Or do you fly out of your vehicle and eliminate the threat by whatever means necessary?

Maybe the rules go out the window when it happens to you and yours. And if it was your child doing these things, you'd probably cry foul anyway.

I engrained in my son, from the time he was old enough to know right from wrong, that there would be hell to pay if he ever laid a hand on another human being that was not in kindness or self defense. I would be the first to impose a sentence and the first to turn him in. I still would. If I didn't, someone else would have. And it would hurt like hell, even if they were right to let him have it or throw him in jail. But I have to take off my mommy hat and accept what is right or just. My son is not the only one who matters on this planet. He means the world to me, but not to everyone else. He is no less deserving of what he puts out there, good or bad.

This forum is just a small sample of why so many kids are so out of control.
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Old 06-08-2012, 11:53 AM
 
Location: IL
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No one wants their kids to have to be disciplined. No one wants them hurt. As a mother, I get that. However, some of you saying you would never tolerate it seems unrealistic and irresponsible. As a mother, that stuns me. Your kids are not the only ones with rights. And your child's comfort comes before mine, because he/she is a child, only for so long.

I don't necessarily agree with what happened in the theater, but I can certainly understand his reaction.

Since the question is "Would you approve of a stranger physically disciplining your child if you aren't around?", let's entertain a couple of scenarios. It's a general question so it could mean just about anything. And remember, if it is wrong, it is wrong.

I mentioned this before. A ten year old kid walks up to you and just proceeds to kick you, elbow you in the head, etc, just for fun. What do you do? Do you just sit there and take it? Do you go running to the manager? Or do you grab that kid and hold him down until he stops? That is physical discipline, isn't it? And, what if, in the process, you bruise him? Is he still a poor little victim?

What if you just dropped your child off at school and a 10 year old strolls up and points mommy's new boyfriend's gun at him/her? Do you wait in your car for mom and dad to show up and discipline him? Do you wait until he shoots your kid and then run to the principle's office? Or do you fly out of your vehicle and eliminate the threat by whatever means necessary?

Maybe the rules go out the window when it happens to you and yours. And if it was your child doing these things, you'd probably cry foul anyway.

I engrained in my son, from the time he was old enough to know right from wrong, that there would be hell to pay if he ever laid a hand on another human being that was not in kindness or self defense. I would be the first to impose a sentence and the first to turn him in. I still would. If I didn't, someone else would have. And it would hurt like hell, even if they were right to let him have it or throw him in jail. But I have to take off my mommy hat and accept what is right or just. My son is not the only one who matters on this planet. He means the world to me, but not to everyone else. He is no less deserving of what he puts out there, good or bad.

This forum is just a small sample of why so many kids are so out of control.
The examples you give are very exaggerated compared to a kid making a noise in a movie theater. Protecting oneself from physical aggression is not the same thing as throwing a punch at a stranger's head because they are annoying you.
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Old 06-08-2012, 12:01 PM
 
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I don't necessarily agree with what happened in the theater, but I can certainly understand his reaction.

This forum is just a small sample of why so many kids are so out of control.
What?

Because we think this guy was out of line because he PUNCHED A KID IN THE MOUTH it translates to all of us raising kids who are running around with no limits and discipline?

No. Just no.

Maybe this forum is an example of level-headed people who realize you don't take your frustrations out by getting physical and taking out teeth every time your seat gets kicked.
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Old 06-08-2012, 12:16 PM
 
Location: The Hall of Justice
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What?

Because we think this guy was out of line because he PUNCHED A KID IN THE MOUTH it translates to all of us raising kids who are running around with no limits and discipline?

No. Just no.

Maybe this forum is an example of level-headed people who realize you don't take your frustrations out by getting physical and taking out teeth every time your seat gets kicked.
I'd be afraid to get on a plane again if so. I am tall so my knees usually end up in some poor schmoe's back.

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Old 06-08-2012, 12:22 PM
 
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Originally Posted by PassTheChocolate View Post
No one wants their kids to have to be disciplined. No one wants them hurt. As a mother, I get that. However, some of you saying you would never tolerate it seems unrealistic and irresponsible. As a mother, that stuns me. Your kids are not the only ones with rights. And your child's comfort comes before mine, because he/she is a child, only for so long.

I don't necessarily agree with what happened in the theater, but I can certainly understand his reaction.

Since the question is "Would you approve of a stranger physically disciplining your child if you aren't around?", let's entertain a couple of scenarios. It's a general question so it could mean just about anything. And remember, if it is wrong, it is wrong.

I mentioned this before. A ten year old kid walks up to you and just proceeds to kick you, elbow you in the head, etc, just for fun. What do you do? Do you just sit there and take it? Do you go running to the manager? Or do you grab that kid and hold him down until he stops? That is physical discipline, isn't it? And, what if, in the process, you bruise him? Is he still a poor little victim?

What if you just dropped your child off at school and a 10 year old strolls up and points mommy's new boyfriend's gun at him/her? Do you wait in your car for mom and dad to show up and discipline him? Do you wait until he shoots your kid and then run to the principle's office? Or do you fly out of your vehicle and eliminate the threat by whatever means necessary?

Maybe the rules go out the window when it happens to you and yours. And if it was your child doing these things, you'd probably cry foul anyway.

I engrained in my son, from the time he was old enough to know right from wrong, that there would be hell to pay if he ever laid a hand on another human being that was not in kindness or self defense. I would be the first to impose a sentence and the first to turn him in. I still would. If I didn't, someone else would have. And it would hurt like hell, even if they were right to let him have it or throw him in jail. But I have to take off my mommy hat and accept what is right or just. My son is not the only one who matters on this planet. He means the world to me, but not to everyone else. He is no less deserving of what he puts out there, good or bad.

This forum is just a small sample of why so many kids are so out of control.
Please identify yourself next time at the theater so that I know who I can freely punch in the teeth for making noise without a thought of consequence.
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Old 06-08-2012, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Austin
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I cannot imagine anyone being okay with this. But I bet if I read long enough, there will be some posters saying it's ok. Sick.
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Old 06-08-2012, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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That's called real child abuse- a stranger does not love your child as you do- No one dare lay a hand on one of my kids with they were little- If they did- fingers are going to get broken- You keep your hands off of what is not yours.
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Old 06-08-2012, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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I have a quick, easy, unequivocal answer to the OP question: no.
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Old 06-08-2012, 05:09 PM
 
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Pass the chocolate-I am so sorry that you would feel this way but to come to such a conclusion is a closed minded individual. Anyone thinking that you can get positive actions from a physical attack is not right. You can draw boundaries with children without being physical and we all have bad days but it does give a right to hurting someone.
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