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Fight back 17 80.95%
Walk away 2 9.52%
Other (comment) 2 9.52%
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Wherever women are
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Tell that to the parents of kids who have committed suicide because of bullies.

We have talked about bullying in our home but haven't run into any problems. We live in a very progressive, inclusive community where the schools have active anti-bullying programs. My children are a minority race and we talk about celebrating differences in people instead of shunnning them.
If a child commits suicide, that is a direct consequence of weak parenting. Children grow up strong, if the parents are strong. Lion King methodology.
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Quakertown, Pa., USA
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both of my children have been doing a form of Wing Chun from the age of 4 and 5, my children will not stand by and be hit, pushed or shoved, if you do these things you'll be looking up from the ground and it doesn't matter if your their age or an adult you WILL be hurt, by the way my dd is now 24 and my ds is 16 and he will not stand by and see any man strike a woman... for any reason.
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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If a child commits suicide, that is a direct consequence of weak parenting. Children grow up strong, if the parents are strong. Lion King methodology.
Not a joking matter.

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I am educated on this topic, and stand by what I posted.

Comments are not despicable or ignorant, based on facts and real world experiences.
Please link to these "facts". Hmmm, real world experience, such as........?
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Suburbs Of Memphis, TN
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Originally Posted by no kudzu View Post
Tell that to the parents of kids who have committed suicide because of bullies.

We have talked about bullying in our home but haven't run into any problems. We live in a very progressive, inclusive community where the schools have active anti-bullying programs. My children are a minority race and we talk about celebrating differences in people instead of shunnning them.

^^^^ I agree!!

I sure wish there were more adults teaching today's youth to be accepting of others, weather it be a different race, ethinicity, social background, ideas, abilities, etc. To be friends with others and to try to include those who are left out! I teach these things to my kids and teach loving kindness above all else. This world would be/could be a much sweeter place if people would just accept others differences rather than point them out!!
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Wherever women are
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It's not a joke. A parent's son or daughter is a reflection of him/her. Suicide is serious business. And it has a direct dependence on the goings-on in the house, prior to the event.

The school bullying is just a trigger which invokes this demon and makes it do irreparable damage.

Strong parenting causes the child to get through the problem.

Of course, we aren't talking about special needs children, children who were born with infirmities.
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:39 PM
 
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Talks to a social worker, family counselor, or an investigator that is where you can get the real facts.

As I said in my OP I don't support bullying but wow have I had go to on the defensive because my post is not in line with others, no wonder there is bullying taking place...

Have a good day, I am done.
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Wherever women are
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Talks to a social worker, family counselor, or an investigator that is where you can get the real facts.

As I said in my OP I don't support bullying but wow have I had go to on the defensive because my post is not in line with others, no wonder there is bullying taking place...

Have a good day, I am done.
The biggest bullies happen to be parents to other parents.

It's called parental bullying. Hey look, I just got my son an Audi roadster. You work at the grocery store, right? It's a shame you can't come to my country club or we will get to know each other. Have a wonderful day.
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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Talks to a social worker, family counselor, or an investigator that is where you can get the real facts.

As I said in my OP I don't support bullying but wow have I had go to on the defensive because my post is not in line with others, no wonder there is bullying taking place...

Have a good day, I am done.
You posted an offensive opinion on a public message board. Sorry to break it to you, but someone calling you on it is not bullying. Either defend your statement using facts, or admit that you were wrong.

Again you are diminishing the damage real bullying can do.
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Yes that is unfortunate but I would bet in addition to the bullying there were things going on in the home, if there was a proper parent relationship happening the suicide would have been likely prevented.
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If a child commits suicide, that is a direct consequence of weak parenting. Children grow up strong, if the parents are strong. Lion King methodology.
Suicide is a multi-determinant phenomenon. There are many risk factors and protective factors that operate simulatenously on a person who is considering suicide. To oversimplify adolescent suicide as having been caused by only one variable (e.g., bullying) or the absence of a "proper" or "strong" parent-child relationship is not only inaccurate, it's insulting to families that have lost children to suicide. If you need my credentials, I was a therapist for adolescents with chronic suicidal behaviors.
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:53 PM
 
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Suicide is a multi-determinant phenomenon. There are many risk factors and protective factors that operate simulatenously on a person who is considering suicide. To oversimplify adolescent suicide as having been caused by only one variable (e.g., bullying) or the absence of a "proper" or "strong" parent-child relationship is not only inaccurate, it's insulting to families that have lost children to suicide. If you need my credentials, I was a therapist for adolescents with chronic suicidal behaviors.
Of course, if those parents had done their job properly, you wouldn't have had clients. So your opinion inclining in that direction is only natural.

One of the key aspects in calling a spade a spade is to call a pig out on its lipstick even if it offends the pig. It should not be taken personally. Or rather, the spade caller doesn't care if it's taken personally or not.
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