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Old 07-29-2012, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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At 12 chances are he has some clue.
LOL, true, to put it mildly. Too bad the same can't be said for some of the adults posting here.
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Old 07-29-2012, 10:26 PM
 
Location: earth?
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How unfortunate. I hope the 12 year-old gets help and is not pathologized unnecessarily. Was the sister traumatized? I think that is the main factor to consider - whether or not there was force involved. If not, it could just be thought of as curious kids - or could be more serious, depending upon the personalities involved.

Why would the mother call the police as a first response? Maybe you left out some details about the seriousness of the event . . .kids play "doctor" . . . but I would definitely be concerned, it was inappropriate at least, and could have been a full-on sexual assault, at worst.
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Old 07-29-2012, 10:39 PM
 
Location: Liberal Coast
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Yes, the victim(s) are his siblings. Mom is not remarried but is in a good, healthy relationship with a guy and his 18yr old son and 16yr old daughter love the kids and are a big part of their lives. Mom's boyfriend and his daughter/son both recently moved in a couple months ago and since then we have seen SOME improvement in the 12yr olds behavior, that is up until now. The other kids call him "dad" or "daddy" and with the exception of the 12yr old, they have all but forgotten about their biological father.
Interesting that the boyfriend and son moved in pretty recently, and this is happening now.
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Old 07-29-2012, 11:04 PM
 
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Interesting that the boyfriend and son moved in pretty recently, and this is happening now.
The 12yr old has had behavioral problems for years now. Since he moved in we have seen SOME improvement in his behavior, that is until now. He has his good days and bad days, as well. I would imagine the improvemnt because of having a positive male role model. I know they have tried counseling but from what I was told, the availablity of county services in their area is almost non-existant, and when they took him to see a counselor before, they were lucky to have him seen once a month, so he wasn't able to get the treatment he needed. My sister is lucky enough to be working part time at a crisis center for probabaly what amounts to no more than $12 an hour while recieving aid from the state so there is no money to afford regular visits with a decent counselor.

I'm even questioning the quality of services provided by county services as most of these people aren't very well paid, the demand for their services is immense, and most are probably out of med school and landed a job with the county just to mark time so they can go into their own practice. Kind of like a public defender does. I could be wrong but thats the way it seems.

It's very unfortunate in our society that if you don't have oodles and oodles of money, nobody cares about you or your problems.
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Old 07-29-2012, 11:31 PM
 
Location: Liberal Coast
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Yes, some behavior improved. However, he was also caught doing these things to his sister. Just because some behavior improved does not mean that those people moving in did not impact what just happened.
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Old 07-29-2012, 11:54 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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How unfortunate. I hope the 12 year-old gets help and is not pathologized unnecessarily. Was the sister traumatized? I think that is the main factor to consider - whether or not there was force involved. If not, it could just be thought of as curious kids - or could be more serious, depending upon the personalities involved.
The child "protection" fanatics don't often attempt to make such distinctions, and they rarely care how much collateral damage they inflict in the name of their holy cause.
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Old 07-30-2012, 12:02 AM
 
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The other children and the known victim do not appear to be traumatized at this point, however, from what I understand of situations like this, the victim may not immediately show any signs of trauma.

I guess all that we can do as of now is wait for the evaluations from the counselor/therapists to uncover the truth and see where this takes us.
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Old 07-30-2012, 12:09 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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The other children and the known victim do not appear to be traumatized at this point
That's probably because the therapists haven't gotten a hold of them yet.
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Old 07-30-2012, 07:57 AM
 
Location: New York City
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It may not be typical or a good thing, but neither is it unheard of, or pathological, when a 6yo is the most accessible person to the older child. It's more of an act of opportunity.
Actually, it is pathological. There is an imbalance of power between a 12yo and 6yo.
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Old 07-30-2012, 08:22 AM
 
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the child "protection" fanatics don't often attempt to make such distinctions, and they rarely care how much collateral damage they inflict in the name of their holy cause.
o.o
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