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Unread 08-10-2012, 10:25 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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I can't imagine throwing children out of the house just for being gay. Both of my parents are conservative (but not religious) and could care less whether their children are gay or straight. My conservative, religious extended family could also care less. Their religions (Catholic, Baptist, and Methodist) teach respect, love, and acceptance of other people. Throwing out gay children is not part of the equation.
As stated before, we would not throw them out just for being gay. Having same sex attraction is not a sin in our religion. However, acting on your impulses is, just as having heterosexual pre-marital sex is. You can respect, love, and accept a person without saying that you completely agree with the way he lives his life.
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Unread 08-10-2012, 10:44 PM
 
Location: Northern California
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As stated before, we would not throw them out just for being gay. Having same sex attraction is not a sin in our religion. However, acting on your impulses is, just as having heterosexual pre-marital sex is. You can respect, love, and accept a person without saying that you completely agree with the way he lives his life.
I don't agree with same sex relations being a sin, but my post (and anger) is directed more towards people who actually do kick their children out and cut off all contact. My husband has extended family who have completely disowned the entire family due to my husband. By disowned I mean they will not return things that rightfully belong to my father in-law, refuse to speak to anyone in my husband's immediate family, erased my father in-law from home videos, tell their children we are all going to have a terrible death, etc. I also know children and young adults who have no contact with their parents because they have been disowned completely or lie constantly to avoid being disowned.
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Unread 08-10-2012, 11:32 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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What silliness.

More love and less hate, please.

Seriously, what would Jesus do?

That should not just be a slogan on a bracelet, you know.
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Unread 08-10-2012, 11:39 PM
 
Location: bloomington,illinois
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What silliness.

More love and less hate, please.

Seriously, what would Jesus do?

That should not just be a slogan on a bracelet, you know.
Seriously, wake up, there's no such thing. But then that's another topic.
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Unread 08-11-2012, 12:27 AM
 
Location: The Bay Area
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No. There are reasons I might kick my adult kids out but being gay isn't one of them.
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Unread 08-11-2012, 01:45 PM
 
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I've said before why we believe the way we do. We believe that it is our duty to get our children to Heaven. In fact, the teaching of our Church is that the father is basically 100% responsible for the faith of the child. We cannot allow someone to live in our house who is blatantly engaging in sinful behavior like that. To us, it would be the same as saying, we do not care one bit about where you end up for eternity.
How long is the father responsible for the faith of the child?

How will kicking your child out of the house ensure that he ends up where he belongs in eternity?

What happens if your child rejects your faith as an adult? Do you cease contact? This is all so unbelievable to me.
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Unread 08-11-2012, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Striving for Avalon
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I have never said this on CD before..
My Mother asked me when I was 14 if I was gay, 1984 I guess...
She said she kinda knew it since I hit puberety..
Funny she had my feelings figured out before I did..
I was blessed with a very wide open and accepting family.
That is quite a rarity.

In my limited experience, relatively painless coming-outs and acceptances are a luxury limited to solidly upper-middle class (or higher) families on the coasts (NY, DC, CA, MA, etc). To qualify, the parents had to have been born upper-middle with the attendant education, and broadening experiences of that kind of youth.
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Unread 08-11-2012, 10:01 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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That is quite a rarity.

In my limited experience, relatively painless coming-outs and acceptances are a luxury limited to solidly upper-middle class (or higher) families on the coasts (NY, DC, CA, MA, etc). To qualify, the parents had to have been born upper-middle with the attendant education, and broadening experiences of that kind of youth.
My male cousin came out in the early 1970s. His parents were humble farmers with eighth grade educations (fairly common of people born in the 1920s in rural America). They were surprised but OK with his life style. Their main disappointment was that they wouldn't have grandchildren who might want to be farmers. My cousin was an early casualty of the AIDS epidemic and his friends took very good care of him when he was ill. At his funeral, in a very small town in the midwest, his roommates/best friends sat with his parents in the first pew of the church. None of the other relatives were upset or concerned that he was gay, just sad that he had died so young (in his late twenties).

There are loving, accepting parents in all places and with all levels of education.
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Unread 08-11-2012, 10:24 PM
 
Location: Minnesota, USA
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We would not throw our child out of our house for being gay. Now, if the person were over the age of 18 and engaging in pre-marital sex, he would be asked to leave if it didn't stop (as would a heterosexual in the same situation.) In our church, being homosexual is not a sin, but acting on the impulses is.
The same here. The Catholic Church does not teach that being homosexual is a sin - it only teaches that it is a disordered inclination. Homosexuality is not the only "inclination" which people struggle against. It could be the "disordered inclination" of being tempted to adultery, or being tempted to overeat, or being tempted to envy others, etc. It is only homosexual acts (or thoughts, if consented to) that are sinful.
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Unread 08-12-2012, 12:22 AM
 
Location: The Other California
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Strange attitude, I allow my lass to have her boyfriend sleeping, yes and having sex in her room on weekends.
I should force them to have sex in a car or on the ground outdoor, I far prefer to keep my daughter safe in the house.
Would I be the same if my daughter was gay, yes.
That's pathetic. Where's her father and what does he think about this? Please don't tell me you're the father.
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