Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Parenting
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 09-04-2012, 02:10 PM
 
42,732 posts, read 29,861,612 times
Reputation: 14345

Advertisements

Women are not inferior to men.

That is the OP's argument. That women are inferior.

He can dodge around and say otherwise, but when you say that women need protection, you are saying they can't take care of themselves. Despite the overwhelming evidence, historical and contemporary, that women can take care of themselves.

When you say that women should be restricted in the professions available to them, you are saying that women can't perform in these professions. Somehow, having a womb makes a woman, what, unable to do math? Unable to wield a hammer? Unable to work in law enforcement?

The only limitation in the lives of the women around the OP is the OP himself.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 09-04-2012, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
12,980 posts, read 14,556,847 times
Reputation: 14862
Quote:
Originally Posted by WesternPilgrim View Post
I do not believe that all women are destined to be married. Many are called to be religious - nuns. And others are called to a life of virginity in the world. But yes, most women do have motherhood in their futures, and their career ambitions need to be ordered around this reality. That's not a false premise: it's empirical reality, as more than 80% of women do become mothers, and if they have motherhood in their futures they ought to have marriage in their futures.

Once upon a time, this used to be plain common sense. Young women are happier when they're at peace with their biology.
I thought it worth mentioning that it's 2012...just in case there is any confusion.....which there seems to be.

Quote:
Originally Posted by WesternPilgrim View Post
Combat nurses should be men.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-04-2012, 02:26 PM
 
Location: The analog world
17,077 posts, read 13,356,098 times
Reputation: 22904
Those are my choices? Marriage...Virginity...or Nun? Even as a long-married stay-at-home-parent, I'm appalled.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-04-2012, 02:28 PM
 
7,214 posts, read 9,390,397 times
Reputation: 7803
When we're talking about young children, I don't see what the harm is. When I was about eight years old, I wanted to be a Major League Baseball player. Well, by the time I was 13 or so, I knew that wasn't going to happen (I was slow and somewhat uncoordinated, among other things). Never made it past Little League. It didn't make me bitter about life that I didn't become a professional baseball player. There's something to be said for just letting kids be kids.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-04-2012, 02:28 PM
 
3,636 posts, read 3,423,843 times
Reputation: 4324
Technically it IS true that you "can" be whatever you want to be. So I would not call it a lie. It is more of an omission by failing to mention that just because you "can" does not mean you "will". Many of us fail.

That aside however the general message of know thyself is not a bad one. Too many people judge themselves by the standards and achievements of others. What I will be teaching my kids is going to be more along the lines of telling them that their goal in life should be to improve themselves each day. Whether their physical self - their education - their intellectual side - their moral side - and so on - their main goal should be simply to be sure they go to bed each day having improved themselves in some way on the person who got out of bed that morning - and that this is the standard - their own standard - by which they should judge themselves.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-04-2012, 02:43 PM
 
Location: The Other California
4,254 posts, read 5,604,186 times
Reputation: 1552
Quote:
Originally Posted by cpg35223 View Post
WP: "Once upon a time, this used to be plain common sense. Young women are happier when they're at peace with their biology."

And you would know this because you're a woman, right?
Well, it's the wisdom of the ages. But don't take my word for it:

Married with children the key to happiness

"For married individuals of all ages and married women in particular, children increase life satisfaction and life satisfaction goes up with the number of children in the household. Negative experiences in raising children are reported by people who are separated, living as a couple, or single, having never been married."
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-04-2012, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
12,980 posts, read 14,556,847 times
Reputation: 14862
Quote:
Originally Posted by WesternPilgrim View Post
Well, it's the wisdom of the ages. But don't take my word for it:

Married with children the key to happiness

"For married individuals of all ages and married women in particular, children increase life satisfaction and life satisfaction goes up with the number of children in the household. Negative experiences in raising children are reported by people who are separated, living as a couple, or single, having never been married."
Nice try to distort what you previosuly posted. Fail.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-04-2012, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Lehighton/Jim Thorpe area
2,095 posts, read 3,101,115 times
Reputation: 1705
Quote:
Originally Posted by WesternPilgrim View Post
Young women are happier when they're at peace with their biology.

I think I saw this on a recruitment poster to be one of Warren Jeffs' sister wives.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-04-2012, 02:56 PM
 
42,732 posts, read 29,861,612 times
Reputation: 14345
Quote:
Originally Posted by WesternPilgrim View Post
Well, it's the wisdom of the ages. But don't take my word for it:

Married with children the key to happiness

"For married individuals of all ages and married women in particular, children increase life satisfaction and life satisfaction goes up with the number of children in the household. Negative experiences in raising children are reported by people who are separated, living as a couple, or single, having never been married."
You realize that the study retracted this conclusion when it turned out their statistical analysis had computational errors.

Studies say children subtract from happiness, so what do we really feel? | Deseret News
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-04-2012, 02:56 PM
 
Location: The Other California
4,254 posts, read 5,604,186 times
Reputation: 1552
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zimbochick View Post
I thought it worth mentioning that it's 2012...just in case there is any confusion.....which there seems to be.
No confusion. 81 percent of women become mothers in 2012 (and I'm sure those stats don't include "childless" women who have had abortions). I think you need to get with the times.

I'm ready for it .... next, you're going to tell me that motherhood should place no limits on a woman's life or career aspirations.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Parenting

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:44 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top