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Spanking is hitting, how else could you define it?
A swat with the palm of a hand against a padded diaper or a few layers of clothing is not the same as "hitting" someone with a closed fist in a punching way.
Let's just agree to disagree so the thread does not veer off topic.
A swat with the palm of a hand against a padded diaper or a few layers of clothing is not the same as "hitting" someone with a closed fist in a punching way.
Let's just agree to disagree so the thread does not veer off topic.
Its still hitting though, the shape of the hand or the strength of the hit does not change the basic definition. Honestly your argument sounds like my ex's argument that he wasn't really hitting me because he didn't break any bones. Hitting is hitting.
A swat with the palm of a hand against a padded diaper or a few layers of clothing is not the same as "hitting" someone with a closed fist in a punching way.
Let's just agree to disagree so the thread does not veer off topic.
Hitting does not require a closed fist. I think having to use happy words to justify spanking is very on topic.
If you read closely, she clearly said that no matter how many times she verbally reprimanded her daughter, she would still run in the street or parking lot.
So saying " there was really no need for it, why do it" is completely off base and counter to what was said.
The only thing that actually DID work was a swat. Verbal reprimands were useless.
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That is because verbal reprimands are not effective. But, usually, spanking works only in the short term and kids do go right back to running into the street or parking lot unless they understand the danger. Rewards for playing safely actually work better.
People overestimate the effectiveness of spanking because we have "selective inattention." We do not remember when spanking fails because it contradicts what we want to believe. This is partly cultural and partly because we don't want to relate any of our adult problems to spanking and condemn our parents for this. The harmful effects of spanking often do not show up immediately, but after several years. These include lower self-esteem, higher frequencies of crime, spousal abuse and depression. Not every child experiences these, but many do. It also leads to an obsession with control, order and obedience. Both extremes - rebellion against authority and submission to authority characterize people who have this mindset. While not all children experience these consequences, spanking makes them much more likely. There is evidence of this on this forum from posts by many parents who favor spanking.
Another problem is that many parents do not have the tools to replace spanking, so they see their children as needing to be spanked when if they understood tools that do not require punishment, they might be able to replace spanking and still have well-behaved children.
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Folks, enough with the back and forth about the pros and cons of spanking. If you wish to do this, you're welcome to open a discussion about it in the Philosophy or Psychology forum.
For this thread, please answer the OP's question without trying to convince each other of the benefits or consequences of spanking. And likewise, change one's opinion about it either. Thanks!
Folks, enough with the back and forth about the pros and cons of spanking. If you wish to do this, you're welcome to open a discussion about it in the Philosophy or Psychology forum.
For this thread, please answer the OP's question without trying to convince each other of the benefits or consequences of spanking. And likewise, change one's opinion about it either. Thanks!
That would be the most boring thread on C-D then....just a bunch of posts that say "yes" or "no".
Unless you are doing a poll, what good comes from a thread like that?
That would be the most boring thread on C-D then....just a bunch of posts that say "yes" or "no".
Unless you are doing a poll, what good comes from a thread like that?
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Then let it be boring! It does no more good to derail a thread with endless bickering. You have every right to do as I suggested and start your own thread about something more exciting...albeit in the appropriate forum.
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