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10-28-2007, 03:08 AM
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Everyone's talking about how "back in the day" television was a lot purer and family-friendly, but isn't it just because there weren't as many television channels? It's just like the basic TV channels you get for cheaper (ABC, PBS, CW, etc.) are the more family orientated ones, because what television company is going to pick VH1 or MTV over something like FOX or ABC?
Anyways, my parents never restricted anything I watched when I was younger. I had friends who weren't allowed to watch The Rugrats, because Angelica called the babies stupid, but instead of completely banning the show from me, my parents taught me that Angelica's choice of words was mean and disrespectful. I never really had any inclination until the age of 14 or 15 to watch MTV, because the Disney channel or Nickelodeon suited my tastes far more, and by the time I reached that age my parents had taught a lot about how to be polite, modest, and how dressing like a working woman was not really too favorable. I think it helped a lot that we only had one television for a really long time too, because even though they never restricted what I viewed, I was usually watching something that they wanted to watch like the news, the WB, something like that.
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10-28-2007, 12:12 PM
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LOL!! you put BET.
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What's funny about listing BET as being inappropriate 
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10-28-2007, 12:33 PM
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Everyone's talking about how "back in the day" television was a lot purer and family-friendly, but isn't it just because there weren't as many television channels? It's just like the basic TV channels you get for cheaper (ABC, PBS, CW, etc.) are the more family orientated ones, because what television company is going to pick VH1 or MTV over something like FOX or ABC?
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I don't think the lack of television channels is the problem. ABC's / CBS's / NBC's have always been around. 7p-10p back in the day was considered "family time" and therefore most shows were shows with "non-risky" content. Today, I wouldn't dare watch some of that programming with my child. Bi-sexuality, sex, just all around inappropriate.
I must disagree with some of you all about exposing children to different lifestyles. I don't think exposing and discussing these matters early will make a difference or make your child less accepting of an alternative lifestyle. I mean, growing up my Mom didn't discuss gays, bi-sexuality, etc. As an adult, I don't discriminate against people who choose this lifestyle, although I may not agree, but if that's their life, so be it - who am I to judge. But exposure to alternative lifestyles, early on, didn't have an influence on the way that I treat people. It was my upbringing - do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
Kids should be kids and society should stop trying to re-invent the wheel.
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10-28-2007, 05:52 PM
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Very true but it's important for kids to understand that there are now all different kinds of families- single parent, and two parent that could include parents of the same sex. If you keep your kids sheltered they may not understand.
Additionally, the way kids throw "gay" and the F-g word (the sensor blocked that one) around as an insult, they need to understand that these terms used in an offensive way could hurt the feelings of a child who has parents who are gay or who may be conflicted about his or her own sexuality. They need to learn to be sensitive to everyone. In my opinion, calling someone "gay" whether they are or are not gay is no different than calling someone the "N" word.
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10-28-2007, 08:50 PM
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Maybe I am just getting old & boring....
I have noticed that there is a new show on MTV that is on at 10pm that is about a girl who is bisexual & doesn't know if she wants a boyfriend or a girlfriend. The overall content of things I heard in the show really surprised me; very overtly sexual with the usual reality show people doing what they do best. I guess I was just surprised b/c I know this station is geared toward young people & any more it seems their programming is pushing the envelope more & more.
During my son's nap the other afternoon, I was flipping through stations & this show was on at 3:00pm!
So, any age group could be watching this show. It seemed so mature to be on at such a time period. I think there is a time & place for everything & that this station overstepped it boundaries.
Wondering how parents feel about the content of tv shows & how they handle it? Would you want your 12 year old home from school watching this? Is so, why? If not, why not?
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I wouldn't worry about that so much as the commercials and other junk on TV. I personally don't own a TV and on the occasion I do watch TV, I'm just amazed by all the junk, junk, junk.
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10-28-2007, 09:14 PM
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In my opinion, calling someone "gay" whether they are or are not gay is no different than calling someone the "N" word.
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Sorry but it's not the same, and I'm shocked  you would say that. What do you call a person who dates or is attracted to a person of the same sex? I always thought they were gay? Please enlighten me if I'm wrong. My co-worker considers himself to be "gay". My cousin considers himself "gay".
On the other hand to call someone the "N" word is a deragatory statement with long standing "negative" history associated with it.
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10-28-2007, 09:17 PM
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Additionally, the way kids throw "gay" and the F-g word (the sensor blocked that one) around as an insult, they need to understand that these terms used in an offensive way could hurt the feelings of a child who has parents who are gay or who may be conflicted about his or her own sexuality. They need to learn to be sensitive to everyone. In my opinion, calling someone "gay" whether they are or are not gay is no different than calling someone the "N" word.
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Read the whole post ayanna, not just the last sentence.
If you choose to allow your children to call people "gay" as an insult, that's your perogative. I have raised mine to have more respect for people than that.
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10-28-2007, 09:30 PM
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Read the whole post ayanna, not just the last sentence.
If you choose to allow your children to call people "gay" as an insult, that's your perogative. I have raised mine to have more respect for people than that.
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I didn't know the word "gay" was considered an insult. I agree with you that F*ggot (however you spell) is. If my child were to tell me that someone was gay, I don't think that any gay person I know would consider that an insult. I think it all depends on the context of how you use the word - but I still don't see how you equate the word "gay" with an insult. Maybe the "F" word
Your last paragraph was unnecessary, as I posted not to start an argument but as dialogue and responding to your post. Keep it civil and don't get personal 
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10-29-2007, 05:31 AM
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If you don't know that "gay" can be used as an insult, I don't know what rock you've been living under. Spend a little time with any adolescent and ask them.
If they're told to do something they don't want to do it's "That's so gay"
If they are upset with one of their friends/peers "He/She's so gay"
If they have to wear something that they don't like "It looks gay"
I could go on and on.
The bottom line is the word gay is meant to describe homosexuals. But most children tend to throw it around as an insult instead. When my son started using gay as an insult instead of to describe a person's orientation it was not tolerated and he was punished the same way would punish him if he ever called someone the N-word (which he never has).
You should never insult someone based upon their race, sex, orientation or religion. And you should never use said descriptors to insult someone.
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10-29-2007, 08:11 AM
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"Wondering how parents feel about the content of tv shows & how they handle it? Would you want your 12 year old home from school watching this? Is so, why? If not, why not?"
I have real concerns for my niece. She is 9 and has been watching Disney with those teen pop singer shows. She idolizes being popular, etc. as a result. The poor kid thinks that those shows are how life is supposed to be. She cries because, "no one likes," her despite the fact that she has friends. She "diets" because she thinks she's too fat. No one can tell her that in real life children don't have concerts on the weekends, that no one bullys these TV children because the writers didn't write it in, and that these TV children are funny, thin, and happy because that's what sells.
I realize that the niece has low self esteem and the home situation is not what it is cracked up to be, (her parents have a strained marrage), so she has latched on to this Hannah Montana/Cheetah Girls ideal. I've heard of this happening, but until now haven't seen it happen.
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