Bisexual TV Show on Popular Teenage Network (cartoon, ideas, parent)

[ayannaaaliyah]

Originally Posted by pirate girl

If you don't know that "gay" can be used as an insult, I don't know what rock you've been living under. Spend a little time with any adolescent and ask them.

If they're told to do something they don't want to do it's "That's so gay"

If they are upset with one of their friends/peers "He/She's so gay"

If they have to wear something that they don't like "It looks gay"

the above quotes have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with sexuality. The term "gay" as used above means "whack", "corny", "not hip". It doesn't say that those teens are "gay bashers" - I think you're taking it far too extreme. Kids are going to be kids and at the end of the day you can only teach them to treat others with respect and as they wish to be treated.

Originally Posted by pirate girl

The bottom line is the word gay is meant to describe homosexuals. But most children tend to throw it around as an insult instead. When my son started using gay as an insult instead of to describe a person's orientation it was not tolerated and he was punished the same way would punish him if he ever called someone the N-word (which he never has).

As I said before, none of the gay people I ever met, take offense to being called "gay". For instance, I'm out at the mall one day with my female cousin, I run into my former classmate, my cousing proceeds to say how cute he is and I tell her, honey he's not interested in you and he finishes my sentence by saying "girlfriend I'm gay". So whether I said it or not the term is not deragatory. I'm glad you felt the need to clarify that your son has never said the N-word, LOL

Originally Posted by pirate girl

You should never insult someone based upon their race, sex, orientation or religion.

And here is where we can agree.

The issue was regarding bi-sexuality and television. Therefore respect starts at home with the parents. I don't need schools or television teaching my child anything about sex, whether it be homosexual or heterosexual - that is my job!

Furthermore, I will not allow my child to be raised by television and the filth that they show day after day.


[quote=Drouzin;1857015She is 9 and has been watching Disney with those teen pop singer shows. She idolizes being popular, etc. as a result. The poor kid thinks that those shows are how life is supposed to be. She cries because, "no one likes," her despite the fact that she has friends. She "diets" because she thinks she's too fat. No one can tell her that in real life children don't have concerts on the weekends, that no one bullys these TV children because the writers didn't write it in, and that these TV children are funny, thin, and happy because that's what sells.

I realize that the niece has low self esteem and the home situation is not what it is cracked up to be, (her parents have a strained marrage), so she has latched on to this Hannah Montana/Cheetah Girls ideal. I've heard of this happening, but until now haven't seen it happen.[/QUOTE]
Another example of parents allowing their children to be raised by television. I have an 8 year old and she loves Hannah Montana however, she understands that it is just a television show. It's called creating balance in a child's life. Without balance, it's almost certain to be a disaster.

[pirate girl]

Well if my son thinks something is whack, corny or not hip, he can find a term other than Gay to use to describe it.

I have a friend who is a lesbian who does take offense to the word "gay" being thrown around in a derogatory manner.

Your willingness to allow your children to use Gay in a derogatory manner only feeds the problem and hinders acceptance in my opinion.

Over and out- I'm done here.

[ayannaaaliyah]

Originally Posted by pirate girl

Your willingness to allow your children to use Gay in a derogatory manner only feeds the problem and hinders acceptance in my opinion.

This is the second time that you've said this, in which case I must correct you. I don't have CHILDREN, I have a CHILD (1, UNO). Secondly she does not use the word Gay because she is far toooooo young. Third - you still have yet to point out how you conclude that the word "gay" is the same as the N-word

[Lindsey_Mcfarren]

Firstly my daughter is 10 and does not watch MTV.

She does however know what it means to be bisexual, homosexual, lesbian and transexual.

I have taught her to be not only tolerate but accepting and loving of people no matter what their background is.

I do NOT tolerate the word "Gay" being used as an insult either.

I think its inappropriate for people with children to assume that the rest of the world is going to NOT have certain programs, rather the parents should be monitering what their children are watching. YOU are the parent, not everyone in the world, YOU are responsible. Directv has a lock system where I can lock her receiver so it can only receive certain channels and programs above a certain rating. I can also lock the other TVS in the house the same way.

My choice to be a parent is my own responsiblity, that does not mean that what everyone else has access to should be dummed down to the level of a child for my convenience.

[Alanboy395]

i think, regardless of our views on homosexuality, we can agree that TV does not need anymore smut on it. If Tina Tequila is what a majority of guys consider the best woman to have a realtionship with and will fight each other for her love, we are in BIG trouble. I'm a guy and i don't want to have a shot of Miss Tequila or any woman like her.

[sbd78]

I think what the o.p. was offended by was the fact that the show was on at 3 p.m., not the fact that the show is on at all. I think its fine to air the show at 10 p.m. when most children are in bed. 3 p.m. is a timeslot that would attract many children since this is when they are arriving home from school. Most adults are still at work at this time. I think the reason this show is inappropriate for children is not for the gay/lesbian/bisexual content but for its promiscuous nature.

[Lindsey_Mcfarren]

Originally Posted by sbd78

I think what the o.p. was offended by was the fact that the show was on at 3 p.m., not the fact that the show is on at all. I think its fine to air the show at 10 p.m. when most children are in bed. 3 p.m. is a timeslot that would attract many children since this is when they are arriving home from school. Most adults are still at work at this time. I think the reason this show is inappropriate for children is not for the gay/lesbian/bisexual content but for its promiscuous nature.

I personally enjoy TV programs that are of an adult nature. I LOVE Tell Me You Love Me on HBO. Of course my daughter doesn't watch it though.

I don't think a child of that age should be allowed to watch MTV. I don't think MTV should be dummed down so that its at the level for grade schoolers.

Parents need to take more responsibilty for taking care of their children. Its not the worlds job to make sure your child doesn't see something they aren't ready for. Don't have kids if you don't want to be the police for a few years.

[ayannaaaliyah]

Originally Posted by Lindsey_Mcfarren

I don't think a child of that age should be allowed to watch MTV. I don't think MTV should be dummed down so that its at the level for grade schoolers.

Parents need to take more responsibilty for taking care of their children. Its not the worlds job to make sure your child doesn't see something they aren't ready for. Don't have kids if you don't want to be the police for a few years.

I agree with you in terms of certain channels and I definitely agree with you that parents need to take more responsibility for raising their children and setting a positive example for them, while also instilling morals and values.

However, in terms of appropriate family programming on the networks - it's nearly non-existent, which is sad and really unacceptable. Fortunately, I have cable and we get the "family channel" which will allow us to have some family tv time together, as my daughter loves movies.

[Lindsey_Mcfarren]

Originally Posted by ayannaaaliyah

I agree with you in terms of certain channels and I definitely agree with you that parents need to take more responsibility for raising their children and setting a positive example for them, while also instilling morals and values.

However, in terms of appropriate family programming on the networks - it's nearly non-existent, which is sad and really unacceptable. Fortunately, I have cable and we get the "family channel" which will allow us to have some family tv time together, as my daughter loves movies.

I have Directv, I have NO shortage of family appropriate programming. One of the HBO channels is considered family programming. I have NEVER heard MTV state they are family programming. My daughter watches programmes on the expected channels but also things on HGTV as well. She is at that age where decorating is interesting to her.

Honestly, I think people WANT to be able to sit their kids in front of the TV and not have to think about what they are watching. OF COURSE thats going to get some people into trouble when their kid ends up watching something thats not age appropriate for them.

This whole dance that the religious right likes to do that morals are going down the tube and EVERYONE must live like they do so EVERYONE must be deprived of a certain type of TV program, movie, music or video game is just silly. I completely support everyones right to censor their own life. I think there MUST be warnings on things like movies and video games and TV. I think cable and satellite boxes MUST have parental controls on them. BUT I am an adult, I have a right to watch something of an adult nature if I choose to. If I want to play a violent video game then I should be able to do so.

Censor your own lives but don't force censorship down everyones throat.

[ayannaaaliyah]

Originally Posted by Lindsey_Mcfarren

I have Directv, I have NO shortage of family appropriate programming. One of the HBO channels is considered family programming. I have NEVER heard MTV state they are family programming. My daughter watches programmes on the expected channels but also things on HGTV as well. She is at that age where decorating is interesting to her.

Honestly, I think people WANT to be able to sit their kids in front of the TV and not have to think about what they are watching. OF COURSE thats going to get some people into trouble when their kid ends up watching something thats not age appropriate for them.

This whole dance that the religious right likes to do that morals are going down the tube and EVERYONE must live like they do so EVERYONE must be deprived of a certain type of TV program, movie, music or video game is just silly. I completely support everyones right to censor their own life. I think there MUST be warnings on things like movies and video games and TV. I think cable and satellite boxes MUST have parental controls on them. BUT I am an adult, I have a right to watch something of an adult nature if I choose to. If I want to play a violent video game then I should be able to do so.

Censor your own lives but don't force censorship down everyones throat.

Oh I agree with you on the censorship issue, it's parents responsibility to censor what their children watch. If you read my post I continue to say that parents need to be parents first and foremost. Doesn't mean that the timezones previously blocked for family program are lacking in appropriate family content. My daughter is 8 and we absolutely love watching HGTV together, the family channel on cable, and even animal planet. So I'm with you. She knows what channels she is allowed to watch and not watch and is never unattended.