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This is outrageous enough on its own, but even more so when you realize that it is FAR from uncommon. This family is just lucky enough to be getting media attention.
I saw that on the News today and I really dont understand why the baby was taken away, they seem like loving concerned parents, it sounded like the authorities thought he was neglected - ? My only concern was that in a couple of photos, the baby was photographed holding beads which definitely could be a choking hazard and he certainly doesnt need them - maybe there's a cultural difference (they're orig. from Russia or Ukraine, I think) - but Im sure they'd do whatever is necessary to get their baby back. Maybe Im missing something though, Im sure a lawyer would help them...
A woman who had been one of my literacy students recently had both her children removed by the Massachusetts Department of Children and Families because she had filed a report, concerned that the children's father had sexually abused them. I used to work for that agency, and I have a Masters Degree in Social Work. I know this woman well, and she is a wonderful mother. DCF didn't like that she was not a compliant person, and it became personal to them. Their reports were replete with lies-- **actual lies.** They perjured themselves in court. The "social worker" (untrained) was barely literate. And ultimately they saw to it that the father, who in my opinion *did* abuse the kids-- received custody.
State protective services can be vicious, and there's nothing you can do about it. The ultimate abuse of power is removing a child from a loving home.
I saw that on the News today and I really dont understand why the baby was taken away, they seem like loving concerned parents, it sounded like the authorities thought he was neglected - ? My only concern was that in a couple of photos, the baby was photographed holding beads which definitely could be a choking hazard and he certainly doesnt need them - maybe there's a cultural difference (they're orig. from Russia or Ukraine, I think) - but Im sure they'd do whatever is necessary to get their baby back. Maybe Im missing something though, Im sure a lawyer would help them...
What it appears to be, to me, is a case of the first hospital having their ego insulted when the parents didn't immediately cave to their push for heart surgery. Also, if you read the article instead of just watching the video there is more detail. The mom noticed mistakes being made by the hospital and was concerned about the quality of care (antibiotics given mistakenly). Unfortunately, some medical professionals have a "how dare you question ME" kind of attitude and these parents, by disagreeing and seeking out a second opinion, are feeling the wrath of someone at hospital number one.
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Originally Posted by bostonbarney
A woman who had been one of my literacy students recently had both her children removed by the Massachusetts Department of Children and Families because she had filed a report, concerned that the children's father had sexually abused them. I used to work for that agency, and I have a Masters Degree in Social Work. I know this woman well, and she is a wonderful mother. DCF didn't like that she was not a compliant person, and it became personal to them. Their reports were replete with lies-- **actual lies.** They perjured themselves in court. The "social worker" (untrained) was barely literate. And ultimately they saw to it that the father, who in my opinion *did* abuse the kids-- received custody.
State protective services can be vicious, and there's nothing you can do about it. The ultimate abuse of power is removing a child from a loving home.
Happens all the time.
Yes, it does. I hate when they (the media and everyone else) use the term "social worker" when most CPS workers are only required to have a Bachelor's degree in pretty much any major. Pet peeve of mine.
Having suffered through what I call a "CPS assisted parental abduction" situation with our DD (now 10), it's a bit of a personal crusade for me. I have definitely seen CPS workers make it personal.
Interesting how fast this became viral considering the couple is a good looking Caucasian family. This crap happens all the freaking time and I mean on a daily basis and we rarely hear about it. I know this because I have worked with CPS and have a best friend who also works for CPS.
Interesting how fast this became viral considering the couple is a good looking Caucasian family. This crap happens all the freaking time and I mean on a daily basis and we rarely hear about it. I know this because I have worked with CPS and have a best friend who also works for CPS.
I think its more that this couple filmed it, and went to news sources about it. It might happen all the time, but the general public will only know about it if parents go to the media to get their story told. Unless you personally know someone (or worked with CPS) then then how else would people know this happens? I sure didn't. I've heard of people getting kids taken away because of nosy neighbors, or people who didn't know the whole truth, but for something like wanting a second opinion from a doctor? That seems to be taking your job's power a little too far.
whaaaat the hell? Seriously, so in addition to failing miserably to provide decent medical care, the hospital, in all likelihood came up with ridiculous lies to cover their own azzes, and CPS then just laps it all up and proceeds to screw the family over. And this happening in what's supposed to be a civilized nation. All the meanwhile kids are actually getting severely abused, beaten, raped, and possibly killed in truly abusive families but no one cares because it's so much easier to take a kid away from normal non-ghetto people. Yea, great going, America .
typical of CPS, acting on mis-information, when the truth could be obtained quickly, without endangering the child. The latest on this story is that there was a 'breakdown in communication" between CPS and Hospital 2. CPS was reacting to the information from Hospital 1 that the child was taken out of Hospital 1 against medical advice. They did not know the child was taken to Hospital 2. Ok, so, if CPS didn't know the child was in another hospital, how did the police know to go to Hospital 2, and check out the story? Looks like everyone but CPS knew the then current status of the child. CPS was reacting on information at least 24 hours old.
Oh, yes, I know, CPS reacts in the best interests of the child first. Hmmmm.....seems they were the only ones in this Keystone Cops scenario who didn't have a clue WTH was actually going on!
We've been hounded by CPS for years. It all started with a disgruntled "friend" who made a totally false report, which was later cleared. however, it put us under suspicion with everyone we dealt with from that time forward. Our family has been psychologically, socially, and financially destroyed with repeated investigations, all ruled out. Still, we live in fear of twisted "facts", and yes, CPS workers are egotistical, and do make it a personal vendetta.
Here's just one of our absurd cases---my dd, then 12, fell and injured her foot. I took her to an ER clinic, then the next day took her to a podiatrist. I informed the school she had been seen by a podiatrist, next thing you know, CPS is knocking at my door accusing me of medical neglect. WTH--I've taken her to 2 medical specialists within 48 hours, and yet the school felt it necessary to make a charge of medical neglect. Turns out the school thought I said I'd taken her to a pedicurist, not a podiatrist Look, I even had a note from the podiatrist, all signed, etc. At that point, they were geared to seeing me in the worst possible light, and looking for anything they could escalate. How ridiculous can one get---all they had to do was call me, or the podiatrist, to verify.....the school nurse actually said to me a podiatrist isn't a medical professional---she didn't know the difference herself, she has a license, she is responsible for the health and well-being of children on a daily basis, yet she doesn't know the difference between a podiatrist and a pedicurist........
Fortunately, my dd was old enough to speak up and tell the "truth" that she had been seen by a doctor. Its all part of CPS cat-and-mouse game never to directly question the suspected abuser---usually the parents--least they tip them off, or scare the bad parents to running off, or WTH they think we would do. They also cited HIPPA laws, they couldn't call the podiatrist and ask what his diagnosis/treatment was. Yes, but their concern was that I had not taken her to an appropriate medical professional---all they had to do was look up the guy on the note I sent to school---he was a licensed podiatrist, not a toe-nail technician in the mall!
Getting back to this case, I still can't understand why they are keeping the baby away from the parents and in the hospital? BTW, I wonder, in this case, who pays the bill for this "forced hospitalization?"
whaaaat the hell? Seriously, so in addition to failing miserably to provide decent medical care, the hospital, in all likelihood came up with ridiculous lies to cover their own azzes, and CPS then just laps it all up and proceeds to screw the family over. And this happening in what's supposed to be a civilized nation. All the meanwhile kids are actually getting severely abused, beaten, raped, and possibly killed in truly abusive families but no one cares because it's so much easier to take a kid away from normal non-ghetto people. Yea, great going, America .
Yep, and kids are routinely abused in foster care, but that's ok, they are "appropriate" and licensed, etc. Many people make a living out of housing foster kids, they are NOT some sort of heros, saving abused kids from neglectful families. the abuse often begins there!
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