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Old 08-13-2013, 10:26 AM
 
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Just curious to see what other C-D folks think about this:

For those who don't click on links, a mom named her baby Messiah. She was in court because her and the baby's father could not agree on the babies last name. The judge also decided that the baby could not be named Messiah, because "The word Messiah is a title and it's a title that has only been earned by one person and that one person is Jesus Christ,"

Mom of baby Messiah: 'I refuse' judge's name change - TODAY.com
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/...d-from-messiah


This also reminds me of something I read several years ago about a family who named their children after Nazi leaders.

Do you think it is ever acceptable for a court to intervene and legally require parents to change their children's name?
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Old 08-13-2013, 10:44 AM
 
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I do think it is acceptable in some instances...like when parents name their children ridiculous names without thought to the future of those children.
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Old 08-13-2013, 10:49 AM
 
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This particular case, the judge was forced to issue an opinion because the parents couldn't agree on a name.

He is correct that Messiah is a title. President, Mister, Miss, Misses are also titles and should not be used for a name.

We have freedom of speech in our country and we have the right to choose to name our kids what we want. However, family law dictates that the parents work as a family and judges can intervene if the parents do not act as a family.
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Old 08-13-2013, 10:50 AM
 
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This is why I'm in favour of Naming Laws. Children shouldn't have to suffer because their parents are idiots and give them idiotic names.
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Old 08-13-2013, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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I have mixed feelings about this TBH. People have a right to name their child as they choose, and yet there are people who seem clueless about the repercussions of ridiculous names on a child's future. In this specific case though unless the widely used name Jesus is also disallowed, I think it would be unfair.
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Old 08-13-2013, 10:55 AM
 
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yet there are people who seem clueless about the repercussions of ridiculous names on a child's future.
I've actually never run into this problem in real life. Only in newspaper articles or online message boards.
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Old 08-13-2013, 10:58 AM
 
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I think these parents are doing a diservice to their child. However, that is not good enough reason to have the input of government or anybody else. One of my best friend's has an odd name and she has decided to use an alternate.
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Old 08-13-2013, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Cumberland Co., TN
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Do you think it is ever acceptable for a court to intervene and legally
require parents to change their children's name?
No. It is not acceptable. Who is determine what is an acceptable name. This judge based her decision on HER religious beliefs.

What about the case in Iceland? "Blaer, which means "light breeze" in Icelandic, is not on a list approved by the government." for a girl. The government deems it a masculine name so the girl was legally known as "girl".

Do we really want government officials naming our children?
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Old 08-13-2013, 11:01 AM
 
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Just curious to see what other C-D folks think about this:

For those who don't click on links, a mom named her baby Messiah. She was in court because her and the baby's father could not agree on the babies last name. The judge also decided that the baby could not be named Messiah, because "The word Messiah is a title and it's a title that has only been earned by one person and that one person is Jesus Christ,"

Mom of baby Messiah: 'I refuse' judge's name change - TODAY.com
Judge Orders Baby's Name Changed From 'Messiah' : The Two-Way : NPR

This also reminds me of something I read several years ago about a family who named their children after Nazi leaders.

Do you think it is ever acceptable for a court to intervene and legally require parents to change their children's name?
I see two points:

1. Are there laws in the state that permit the court to impose the change of a given name? Some countries do have these laws, but I had not heard of this being done in the U.S. I've read of some Scandinavian countries prohibiting the registering of a child under certain given names.

2. The judge framed her ruling in terms of her personal religious beliefs. This, I would think, would be enough to get the decision nullified very quickly...and perhaps get the judge some leave without pay time to think whether she wants to be a judge or a Christian evangelizer.

As to the general question, some kids do get rather wacky names...but other than sexual obscenities, I'm have not idea where any lines could reasonably be drawn.
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Old 08-13-2013, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Denver area
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This particular case, the judge was forced to issue an opinion because the parents couldn't agree on a name.

He is correct that Messiah is a title. President, Mister, Miss, Misses are also titles and should not be used for a name. .

So you object to Prince, Duke, and Earl as well...
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