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Old 10-04-2013, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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I'm glad to see you have a sense of humor to accompany the sanctimony. You make me lachrymosal.

 
Old 10-04-2013, 03:30 PM
 
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My son vomited after the flu mist, so we get the flu shot instead. Rashes aren't a big deal,mi wouldn't worry about it.
 
Old 10-04-2013, 03:42 PM
 
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Hives is a reaction to TOXINS!!!!!!!! Stay the eff away from flu shots!
two of the many so called "rare" side effects of flumist are hives...and itching (especially hands and feet).
 
Old 10-04-2013, 05:22 PM
 
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]My son vomited after the flu mist, so we get the flu shot instead. Rashes aren't a big deal,mi wouldn't worry about it.[/quote]

(See bold text above)

Rashes can totally be a "big deal" if they follow a shot or some sort or the other. Cause and effect: it's what's for dinner...
 
Old 10-04-2013, 05:53 PM
 
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]Rashes can totally be a "big deal" if they follow a shot or some sort or the other. Cause and effect: it's what's for dinner...
Correlation does not imply causation.
 
Old 10-04-2013, 08:01 PM
 
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You must be joking. The mother observes the child AFTER the flu shot and it's just a coincidink?
I'd guess that before the flu mist the child also ate a meal. Maybe the meal caused the rash? Maybe riding in the car to the dr's office which the child did before the flu mist caused the rash? Maybe, maybe, maybe.

I"ll reiterate what Zimbo said: Correlation does not equal causation!
 
Old 10-04-2013, 08:02 PM
 
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First of all, it's October and in any case, what in bloody hell is Lachrymosal?!
I think the poster is referring to a poster by name, that is, "April". If you don't know what lachrymosal" means, look it up.
 
Old 10-04-2013, 08:42 PM
 
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My husband has MS and cannot have nasal vaccines because the are live and can cause him to have an episode. It's very possible the hives came from the flu shot. I don't see why anyone would be so against that being the case...

I have a friend who allergic to Benadryl! She went to the emergency room for something and they tried giving her Benadryl and she kept telling them she's allergic to it and they were like "no you aren't" and gave her an injection of it and almost killed her. They had to give her adrenaline and epinephrine afterwards. If I were her I would have refused to pay a penny of the bill!

If she's been fine with the shot, give her that, and don't ever listen to anyone who says "oh she'll be fine" because next time her throat could close up! Hives aren't that serious, but if her face started to swell or she had problems breathing then you'd better rush her to the emergency room of urgent care. BTW I would tell her doctor too so it's in their file. For allergic reactions, swelling of the facial area/neck area is what is deadly.
 
Old 10-07-2013, 03:58 PM
 
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Correlation does not imply causation.
Yes it does...when it's your kid, and if you're not stupid.
would you say the same to a heavy smoker who develops cancer?
 
Old 10-07-2013, 08:32 PM
 
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Yes it does...when it's your kid, and if you're not stupid.
would you say the same to a heavy smoker who develops cancer?
That correlation worked because the odds of smokers developing lung cancer were roughly 50 X greater than non-smokers. It was a strong correlation, virtually impossible to explain in any other way.

I can correlate all kinds of things. People with blond hair may be more likely to get a college education than people with black hair. It has nothing to do with intelligence though. The reason though is that most of the people with black hair in this world tend to live in third world countries. Perhaps people with big feet tend to have greater periods of unemployment in their lives. That one is almost certainly coincidental.

The problem is you can't substantiate any of your correlations scientifically. Not a single one.

(waiting for the usual citations from naturopaths and herbalists)
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