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Old 08-10-2014, 04:48 PM
 
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I am wondering if there are any places in the US left where kids play outside unsupervised, and its the norm. So I'm wondering where you live and if kids playing outside in groups or with a friend is the norm, safe, thought as a positive or negative or potentially illegal? At what age do kids get that freedom?

Growing up, we started playing outside with siblings and peers, without direct supervision, at 4 or 5. And by 7 we were given massive freedom, as long as we were home by dinner (how we managed to know when that was, no idea! We didn't wear watches). By 11 we could play outside at night time so long as we were home by bedtime. We lived rurally, and then in apartments. I am 36 so this wasn't like 70 years ago.

Now we live in the city, houston. But our neighborhood is more like a suburb. No kids play outside here. They used to but that group of kids are teens now and it seems no one has since then. I'm sure its neighborhood dependent, but I feel like I never see kids playing outside without a parent hovering. My kids (9 and 7.5) play in our front yard and drive way, and ride their scooters on the sidewalk up and down the block. But thats it. And I have gotten flack for allowing it. I'm always within ear shot, and I check on them. They also know about safety. So....seriously. My son is nervous because he looks young for his age and had a man stop his car and yell at him to go home.

So what about where you live? We want to move out of houston and having more outdoor play for the kids is near the top of our list.
I live in the burbs. Kids start running around town unsupervised in the middle school years, somewhere between 10-12.

I am only a little older than you, and we were not allowed to run around unsupervised at 4 or 5. I cannot imagine a 4 year old being allowed to play without supervision, even in the front yard unless the siblings are a LOT older, like the pre-teen or older set. Even when we were allowed out, we had to be at someone's home, if we were out after dark. This notion of children barely out of diapers running wild as the norm just a few years ago is not something I either experienced personally, or know anyone who did, well, besides on the internet.
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Old 08-10-2014, 04:50 PM
 
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A couple neighbors gave me a guilt trip about me being inside when they were out. And some friends have flipped out that its highly unsafe. (I got flack for letting my 7 year old go to the restroom herself in a restaurant!!!). I live in a safe upper middle class neighborhood off main roads.
Really? Actually "flipped out"? I think we have some exaggeration going on.
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Old 08-10-2014, 04:54 PM
 
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In my experience, yes, but not as often/frequently as they used to. Modern day kids are WAY overscheduled and quite frankly, many don't have the TIME. But yes, my kids play outside (although not every day). So do a lot of other kids.
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Old 08-10-2014, 04:56 PM
 
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I do think 4 and 5 year olds playing unsupervised is dangerous. I grew up in the 70s and yes, my mom let us roam around unsupervised at that age. I remember among other things, stepping on glass and cutting my feet (several times), being stung by fire ants, sitting in concrete drainage ditches WHILE THERE WAS WATER RUSHING THROUGH, and going missing once when I wandered to a neighbor's house and didn't tell anyone where I was.

Kids under age 8 need supervision.

ETA we used to shoplift candy from the local 7-11. I was only 5 and my sister was 7.
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Old 08-10-2014, 04:57 PM
 
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I am wondering if there are any places in the US left where kids play outside unsupervised, and its the norm. So I'm wondering where you live and if kids playing outside in groups or with a friend is the norm, safe, thought as a positive or negative or potentially illegal? At what age do kids get that freedom?

Growing up, we started playing outside with siblings and peers, without direct supervision, at 4 or 5. And by 7 we were given massive freedom, as long as we were home by dinner (how we managed to know when that was, no idea! We didn't wear watches). By 11 we could play outside at night time so long as we were home by bedtime. We lived rurally, and then in apartments. I am 36 so this wasn't like 70 years ago.

Now we live in the city, houston. But our neighborhood is more like a suburb. No kids play outside here. They used to but that group of kids are teens now and it seems no one has since then. I'm sure its neighborhood dependent, but I feel like I never see kids playing outside without a parent hovering. My kids (9 and 7.5) play in our front yard and drive way, and ride their scooters on the sidewalk up and down the block. But thats it. And I have gotten flack for allowing it. I'm always within ear shot, and I check on them. They also know about safety. So....seriously. My son is nervous because he looks young for his age and had a man stop his car and yell at him to go home.

So what about where you live? We want to move out of houston and having more outdoor play for the kids is near the top of our list.
Of course kids play outside. I bet they do in Houston as well.
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Old 08-10-2014, 04:59 PM
 
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Really? Actually "flipped out"? I think we have some exaggeration going on.
She shouted at me about how I dont understand how safe it is, how my daughter would be kidnapped and she got tears in her eyes. And then she went on a tiraid on facebook. She has an 8 year old and she still cuts grapes and measures her water intake...so...but still there were others who seemed to think it was terrible too.
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Old 08-10-2014, 05:01 PM
 
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I do think 4 and 5 year olds playing unsupervised is dangerous. I grew up in the 70s and yes, my mom let us roam around unsupervised at that age. I remember among other things, stepping on glass and cutting my feet (several times), being stung by fire ants, sitting in concrete drainage ditches WHILE THERE WAS WATER RUSHING THROUGH, and going missing once when I wandered to a neighbor's house and didn't tell anyone where I was.

Kids under age 8 need supervision.

ETA we used to shoplift candy from the local 7-11. I was only 5 and my sister was 7.
I agree, its too young. But there wasn't the fear mongering back then to make parents crap themselves every time their child was out of sight. When I was 7 I was nearly kidnapped, police were called, drove me home and told off my mom for letting me roam (at the time we lived in a city in a bad neighborhood). So I worry alot, but I also try to keep it all in perspective.
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Old 08-10-2014, 05:02 PM
 
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I do think 4 and 5 year olds playing unsupervised is dangerous. I grew up in the 70s and yes, my mom let us roam around unsupervised at that age. I remember among other things, stepping on glass and cutting my feet (several times), being stung by fire ants, sitting in concrete drainage ditches WHILE THERE WAS WATER RUSHING THROUGH, and going missing once when I wandered to a neighbor's house and didn't tell anyone where I was.

Kids under age 8 need supervision.

ETA we used to shoplift candy from the local 7-11. I was only 5 and my sister was 7.
I think its just a matter of setting limits. My 3 year old is allowed out unsupervised but she is limited to our communal garden, the next communal garden and the park across the road (but she has to ask me to walk her over as she's not allowed to cross the road by herself. The other little ones nearby seem to have the same limits except for the road crossing one.
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Old 08-10-2014, 05:05 PM
 
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I think its just a matter of setting limits. My 3 year old is allowed out unsupervised but she is limited to our communal garden, the next communal garden and the park across the road (but she has to ask me to walk her over as she's not allowed to cross the road by herself. The other little ones nearby seem to have the same limits except for the road crossing one.
And there is literally no supervision? Just a bunch of toddlers running around?
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Old 08-10-2014, 05:15 PM
 
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And there is literally no supervision? Just a bunch of toddlers running around?
There's often older kids out too who keep an eye on the younger ones (there's only 4 young ones). I pop out and check every 10 minutes or so because I'm not quite as comfortable as the other parents are because I'm not used to this but no other parents seem to be out unless its with babies or outsiders at the park.
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