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Old 08-15-2014, 04:57 AM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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The head of the table type thing annoys me.... and I cant stand the father who thinks he deserves to be treated like a king because he has a brood of kids he brought into the world... its nice to teach manners but not to instil into children that their parent is a god..
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Old 08-15-2014, 05:50 AM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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LMAO. If you're still around on CD in 10 years you'll no doubt be posting about how unruly your children are and where did you go wrong!#? I just hope I remember this thread. . I agree with you on one thing though, you are whipped in your household...by your children!
Pretty much ^^ . Behavior that is hilarious at 3 is not so funny at 16.

"Pride goeth before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall."
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Old 08-15-2014, 05:51 AM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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The head of the table type thing annoys me.... and I cant stand the father who thinks he deserves to be treated like a king because he has a brood of kids he brought into the world... its nice to teach manners but not to instil into children that their parent is a god..
Fortunately, I've never known a man like that, even here in the South.
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Old 08-15-2014, 06:03 AM
 
Location: Western Washington
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Fortunately, I've never known a man like that, even here in the South.
Me either, and I was raised by a southern momma and a NY daddy. You know what though? Dad's chair at the table was dad's chair at the table. It was his chair and his place. Who cared? I didn't. My bed was my bed. Things that I bought with my own money, were MY things. They were MINE. When people treated MY stuff that I bought and treasured, as if it were THEIR stuff, it pi$$ed me off!!!!!!

If we sat down to watch television, did I "wish" I could have sat in Dad's soft, comfy, fuzzy, warm recliner? Oh MAN! YEAH! Oh well, it was HIS recliner. So what. I totally got over it, knew that someday, I was gonna make me enough money to buy my OWN reclinder. Dang, call it a rite of passage! ....kinda like a driver's license, drinking age, etc. When YOU grow up, you're gonna.....

As far as the "head of the household" (king of his castle), maybe, just MAYBE if we started respecting our husbands, maybe if more men behaved as respectable, HEADS of their households, started ACTING like responsible leaders, things would start straightening out a bit. My husband was the HEAD of our household and was treated accordingly! HE never once, demanded to be treated as such. That man, in fact, has NEVER gotten his food first, at mealtime, unless he was FORCED to do so. No, it was ME, his wife, who demanded that he be seen as THE head of this household. We're going on 33 years together and folks, that's why. My sons WANT to attain that position and my daughter is looking for someone whom she respects enough to PUT in that position. Just doin' my job.
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Old 08-15-2014, 06:16 AM
 
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The head of the table type thing annoys me.... and I cant stand the father who thinks he deserves to be treated like a king because he has a brood of kids he brought into the world... its nice to teach manners but not to instil into children that their parent is a god..
Yeah that would suck...nowadays fathers are basically the butt of some long running joke. They are to be laughed at, mocked, wallet poached and expelled to areas of the house no one wants to go (aka man caves). If divorce happens they wont be kings but they'll pay a king's ransom in child support.

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Old 08-15-2014, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Bretagne, FRANCE
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The head of the table type thing annoys me.... and I cant stand the father who thinks he deserves to be treated like a king because he has a brood of kids he brought into the world... its nice to teach manners but not to instil into children that their parent is a god..
That's the way it is in France too.
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Old 08-15-2014, 08:12 AM
 
Location: East Millcreek
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I absolutely agree that kids should listen to parents, teachers and other close adults. That being said, respect is earned. Ad parents we brought them into the world, and do endless other things for our beloved children. Teachers spend the day educating them. Random people, however, do not. I don't recommend kids being rude to anyone--adults or fellow children. But some think that simply because adults are older, they are superior.

Pedophiles and rapists are adults too. We may give speeches about.touching but on the contrary we teach them to honor all elders. It can be confusing to children and they may be afraid to say no. If someone is out of line with your child in general, why shouldn't he put them in their place? They have done nothing for him to earn honor.

So a question to the "seen and not heard" followers:
What is older ? The moment someone turns 18, the 9 year old should bow down? Sounds a bit off to me.
I am thoughtful towards my 99 year old great grandmother but when she tells us to put her socks in the stove we don't do it.

The basic point is: The line between respect and total submission concerning adults and children is blurred.
This is one of the silliest, unreflective posts I can recall for some time. You've framed this as black and white and used the example of pedophiles. I'm guessing you're either one of those "noone-can-tell-my-kid-what-to-do" parents with kids that run wild or you're a kid. Either way, It's hard to know where to start.

Adults aren't inherently superior, but in most functioning human societies that I can think of adults are higher up in the human social hierarchy. The default social behavior for children is therefore respect (being polite, appropriate social behavior). Do you let your kids run wild in a restaurant and then get bent out of shape if another customer tells them to quite bumping their table? Or, perhaps, you'd be outraged if I told your little darling to quit texting in a movie? If so, they you are personally contributing to the general decline in civility that we all lament.

And to top it off you seem to be justifying permissiveness with examples that make absolutely no sense. Socks in the oven? Doing what a pedophile wants because they're an adult? Seriously???

Quit screwing up your kids and making the world a worse place for the rest of us.
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Old 08-15-2014, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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From a religious standpoint: My children are trained that we are an authority, so we are to be listened to, respected and obeyed. Do they always 100% do that? no, but thats part of the on going training.

as for the head of the household- same answer as above. In our house, my husband is the head. He gets the head of the table (when there is a chair there), he gets the say in things, he gets the decisions.
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Old 08-15-2014, 11:02 AM
 
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I'll be polite to everyone but I respect hardly anyone of any age.
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Old 08-15-2014, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Purgatory
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I'll be polite to everyone but I respect hardly anyone of any age.
Everyone deserves respect imho until proven otherwise. Even you. It's like "innocent until proven guilty."
What is politeness anyways? If you are not polite out of respect, it almost seems manipulative or insincere at the very least.
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