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Old 09-07-2014, 12:21 PM
 
Location: On The Road Full Time RVing
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There have been People who have left their child in a car for just a minute.

But when they came back, the car, and child were gone by a thief.

Some of these children were killed, some were used in a ransom trades.

It happens in just a few seconds.

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Old 09-07-2014, 12:41 PM
 
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There have been People who have left their child in a car for just a minute.

But when they came back, the car, and child were gone by a thief.

Some of these children were killed, some were used in a ransom trades.

It happens in just a few seconds.

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Yes, and has been pointed out, kids have been killed outside of the car in a parking lot. Kids have also fallen out of carts because they weren't placed in their carseats before the parent unloaded the groceries.

Life is full of risk. Some of those risks are tiny. Somehow, we all have to get out of bed in the morning and do the best we can.
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Old 09-07-2014, 12:42 PM
 
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There have been People who have left their child in a car for just a minute.

But when they came back, the car, and child were gone by a thief.

Some of these children were killed, some were used in a ransom trades.

It happens in just a few seconds.

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Oh for goodness sakes. There have been far more children run over by cars. Although I hear those ransom trades are an epidemic !
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Old 09-07-2014, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in America
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You wouldn't even look around first to see if mom was in sight? Or just wait one minute to see if she showed up?

It's not illegal to leave kids in the car in my state. If the cops were called because mom went to return the grocery cart or a book to the book return or put a video in the Red Box kiosk, or get cash from the walk up ATM, I can't imagine they'd do anything.



They aren't "unattended" if mom can see them in the car.

How would you know who the mom is? She's not wearing a sign!

While it may not be illegal, it's not smart. And there does come a point where it is illegal. It's called endangering the welfare of a child. The law in many states isn't called leaving your kid in the car.

If you are not physically with your child, they are unattended!

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Old 09-07-2014, 01:07 PM
 
Location: WI
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Oh for goodness sakes. There have been far more children run over by cars. Although I hear those ransom trades are an epidemic !
I always keep my children near me in case of a ransom trade. You just never know. One time my neighbor's sister in law's aunt's dog was kidnapped in one of those schemes, which was a startling reminder to for me remain vigilant. I advise you to do the same.

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Old 09-07-2014, 01:25 PM
 
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If you are not physically with your child, they are unattended!
What distance do you consider physically with your child? Five feet?
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Old 09-07-2014, 01:33 PM
 
Location: On The Road Full Time RVing
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kids have been killed outside of the car in a parking lot.
Kids have also fallen out of carts because they weren't placed in their carseats
before the parent unloaded the groceries.
This is an example of parent ignorance and accidents.


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Oh for goodness sakes.
There have been far more children run over by cars.
This is another example of accidents.



People say these things because it is not one of their children who
are kidnapped and killed or molested.
Leaving little children in cars unattended is foolish child endangerment,
and should be against the law.

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Old 09-07-2014, 01:40 PM
 
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This is an example of parent ignorance and accidents.




This is another example of accidents.



People say these things because it is not one of their children who
are kidnapped and killed or molested.
Leaving little children in cars unattended is foolish child endangerment,
and should be against the law.

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Wait, so parents who leave their child in the cart while they are unloading, with the intention of keeping them close until the cart is returned to the corral, are ignorant, but parents who choose to buckle their child safely into the car, and walk the cart over alone, are also ignorant? Which is it?
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Old 09-07-2014, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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If you can see your kids and get to them before they put the car into neutral and roll into the street, before they can open the door and head out, before someone can hop in and make off with them, then it doesn't count as leaving them unattended.

They could also race into traffic while standing alongside. However, the nimble parent will grab the kid before he gets all that far. How do you do that when the car is 50 yards away?

There will always be parents who leave their kids in the car. Just as there will always be parents who let their toddlers wander around the apartment parking lot in droopy diapers.

There are even parents who leave their young children sleeping in hotel rooms in foreign countries while they go out for dinner.

And every once in a while something happens.

Then the parents plead for someone to do something, to bring back their precious child, the one they left alone in the hotel room, left to walk unsupervised to a neighbor's, left in the car for just a few minutes while they ran a quick errand.

I was just decided that that parent wasn't going to be me. That child wasn't going to be one of those I was raising.

Each to their own.
Technology Helps To Keep Rate Of Car Thefts Down : NPR

Now, this is about car thefts, and making cars harder to steal, however, it makes them harder to start, and harder to be "fiddled" with by kids.

This thread is not about letting one's kid run around in droopy diapers or leaving them alone in hotel rooms.

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You know I always used pay at the pump for getting gas. I used a book drop where I could open my car window and drop the books in at the library. I used the drive up window at the bank. I parked near the cart return at the grocery store (sometimes there were not spots, but most of the time there were) or used the special spots for people with small children. As I said in a previous post, a little planning goes a long way.

Also, having two adults help or leaving kids home for errands is certainly a possibility.
OK, here's the street view of my Walgreen's and the RedBox outside where we return our videos. (Kind of blurry) You can see a person in front of the Red Box. That is usually not the case unless it's Friday or Saturday night. In other words, you can return the movie in the daytime w/o having to wait. If there is a line, you can take the child with you or wait in the car until it clears. You can almost always get a parking space right by the machine, or you can park illegally right in front of it, and no one much cares as long as you clear out right away.

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9869...UP8M587xaw!2e0

Here's the library I was talking about. The book drop is up against the building. The circular driveway is one way such that it is on the passenger side of the car, so one does have to get out of the car to put the books in.

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9175...Gg!2e0!6m1!1e1

Taking another adult or leavin kids at home works, but that's not doable 100% of the time. Are you suggesting that moms stay home all day, then do errands when their partner is at home?

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If I'm going into a store and I see a mother (or dad) unloading groceries and her kids I often walk over and say, "I'll take your cart when your done." They're always happy to not have to worry about the cart. I've also had mothers with kids tell me they'll take my cart if I'm unloading and they are parked near me and have kids in the car. (The local library has a drive-thru book drop. Those are very handy.)

Life is much easier when we keep an eye out for each other.
How very nice of you! I think I'm going to start doing that more.
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Old 09-07-2014, 02:06 PM
 
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some were used in a ransom trades.
Well jokes on them, I don't have any money for ransom trades.
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