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Old 09-25-2014, 11:01 PM
 
Location: Wallace, Idaho
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Originally Posted by believe007 View Post
That lady is a hero- Not many people even look twice when kids are in danger these days.
They're always concerned about dogs being left in vehicles, not so much kids

Its disgusting that the onlookers & the security guard tried to stop her-
even threatening her w/ arrest
We live in a sick world.....
If she didn't do what she did the kid could have been another statistic.
Sadly, another story like this didn't end well this week. A car ran into a drainage ditch, and the cops threatened to arrest the people who were in the water trying to save the driver. They all came out, and the cops stood around and did nothing while the driver drowned.

Drowning witness: Police stopped men from trying to save woman trapped in car - KFOX - El Paso Top Stories - Breaking News, Weather, and Traffic

Thank goodness for people who put someone's humanity above following rules.
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Old 09-26-2014, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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Sadly, another story like this didn't end well this week. A car ran into a drainage ditch, and the cops threatened to arrest the people who were in the water trying to save the driver. They all came out, and the cops stood around and did nothing while the driver drowned.

Drowning witness: Police stopped men from trying to save woman trapped in car - KFOX - El Paso Top Stories - Breaking News, Weather, and Traffic

Thank goodness for people who put someone's humanity above following rules.
I don't understand why cops didn't do something here?
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Old 09-26-2014, 08:27 AM
 
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I don't understand why cops didn't do something here?
The first rule of rescue is don't become a victim. I can't speak to this particular situation but perhaps the cops believed the risk to would-be rescuers outweighed the chance of saving the driver.
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Old 09-26-2014, 08:39 AM
 
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A distraught man drowned in Alameda California while law enforcement stood on the beach and watched and prevented others from helping.

All public safety officers said they were following strict protocol...

The police/fire departments no longer offered water rescue and only those certified in water rescue could make the attempt... the man died in water deep enough to stand a ways out from shore.

Alameda police, firefighters watch as man drowns, blame budget cuts for being unable to respond | abc7news.com
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Old 09-26-2014, 08:42 AM
 
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^^^^ If I posted my true thoughts on why the people who
are hired to "serve & protect" aren't actually doing their jobs--
I'd be banned from this site, lol
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Old 09-26-2014, 08:50 AM
 
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All comes down to liability and not sticking your neck out...

I've been in sticky situations before and did what I knew was right.

Way off topic... I work at a Hospital and an elderly woman ride home did not show up... in speaking I learned she lived near me.

She was quite distraught thinking about her pets not having dinner on time and we could not reach her family...

I drove her home after work and saw to it that she was safe inside and the door locked.

The Hospital CEO told me I put the Hospital in jeopardy because if anything were to go wrong... even a traffic accident, the Hospital would be involved...

She said if this happens again to find her and the Hospital would pay for cab fair...
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Old 09-26-2014, 08:51 AM
 
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I entered a Target recently and saw as I walked through the parking lot a huge, expensive SUV with three children locked inside. I live in Arizona. It was hot. I went immediately to Customer Service and got in line. When I finally got to the counter to tell an associate, she told me I would have to wait for a manager. I wanted almost ten minutes. Then the manager told me he couldn't do anything (on the grounds Target didn't own the parking lot, their landlord did) and "if I wanted to stick around" he would call security and have them deal with it. Another 10 minutes later a droopy-looking kid about 18 in an over-sized guard's uniform came on the scene. I told him what the car looked like, where it was parked, and the license number. He appeared VERY ANNOYED ... with me! No one would heed my advice to page the owner of the car and tell him or her to deal with the children.

Ummmm....

What happened next? If you didn't do anything further, you are just as bad as the others in this scenario.

Were the children ok?
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Old 09-26-2014, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Northern Virginia
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All comes down to liability and not sticking your neck out...

I've been in sticky situations before and did what I knew was right.

Way off topic... I work at a Hospital and an elderly woman ride home did not show up... in speaking I learned she lived near me.

She was quite distraught thinking about her pets not having dinner on time and we could not reach her family...

I drove her home after work and saw to it that she was safe inside and the door locked.

The Hospital CEO told me I put the Hospital in jeopardy because if anything were to go wrong... even a traffic accident, the Hospital would be involved...

She said if this happens again to find her and the Hospital would pay for cab fair...
Sad, litigious, paranoid, unloving world we live in. Ultrarunner, thank you for being a good person in this sad world.
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Old 09-26-2014, 10:30 AM
 
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Might have been more prudent to go in the store, tell customer service to page the parents with a warning that in 5 minutes you'd be extracting the child from the car yourself and phoning the authorities. To immediately break the window first and ask questions later seems a bit showy to me.
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Old 09-26-2014, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Sorry, no offense buti don't believe you


Humans are disturbing, we have been since we stood up on some sub Saharan plain.. . and probably before that (see the crap that Chimps do to each other?)

My assumption is that unless you brace yourself, you will fail the test

and if people tell me that they would do something brave on the internet, I consider that bravery as a reflection of being hidden behind text and a computer. . and not real world bravery.
So what have you done to be such a hero?

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Not to denigrate this women but why no call to 911? Most cops can open a car in a minute or so with a slim jim.

She of course did the right thing though there were likely better. side window and reach in without risking ones own body trying to get through a windshield hole.
Because something like this will not take priority for 911 over robbery, accidents, etc.

Average police response time is probably 15 minutes. Who knows how long those kids had been in there for already.

People can be a part of the solution or a part of the problem.
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