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Old 12-10-2014, 10:22 AM
 
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My kids get a lot of great socialization at public school. The queen bee girls that call my son fat, that's social. The popular girls that call him gay, the other girls who say he has a small penis...good socialization there. The jock kids that teased my middle son for wearing wal mart shoes, that's social. And the pre-school teachers that keep pointing at my youngest son's face (he was born with a cranial facial malformation) and staring are all very social. Socialization is awesome, everyone needs more socialization like they need a second a-hole.

Those weird homeschool kids missing out on all that great socialization. Where will they learn the right clothes to wear, that not having an iphone means your character is flawed, that you sit at the wrong table at lunch and if you're not friends with the "correct" people...you're a loser. But they sure get good socialization in where to sit, where to stand in line, to be quiet, that just when they might be interested in something the bell rings and they're forced to move on to the next subject...future employers love multitaskers.

What do I do extraordinary? Nothing. I'm normal or average and boring in every aspect. I'm OK with it.
I am sorry your children have had such bad experiences at school. It truly is not that way everywhere. I have two autistic grandchildren and the kids at their schools have been awesome so far. The older one is in 7th grade and we were just told that while she doesn't have a lot of friends, she does have a group of kids who seek her out at lunch to sit with and who see that she is smart and funny and quirky. The younger one is a boy in 4th grade currently and the kids in his school really seem to like him.

I think homeschooling can be great and it can be horrible depending upon many factors. The same is true of public schooling or private schooling.
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Old 12-10-2014, 11:02 AM
 
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As parents, most all of us do the normal things for kids. Get together for holiday. Bake. Visit Santa. Throw birthday parties. Go to birthday parties, etc, etc, etc.

What kinds of things do you do that are extraordinary? Things that may not be common, and something that requires a bit of effort, thought, time, or money. Things that make you proud of being a parent.
My wife is a SAHM, and I find it extraordinary that she hasn't killed our oldest son. He's 3, but on top of that, she has to deal with our baby girl, who is turning 1 this month. Managing, and not killing, either one requires quite a bit of effort, thought, & time. I supply the money, which is definitely the easier part of the equation. I'm quite proud of her as a parent.
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Old 12-10-2014, 11:47 AM
 
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My kids get a lot of great socialization at public school. The queen bee girls that call my son fat, that's social. The popular girls that call him gay, the other girls who say he has a small penis...good socialization there. The jock kids that teased my middle son for wearing wal mart shoes, that's social. And the pre-school teachers that keep pointing at my youngest son's face (he was born with a cranial facial malformation) and staring are all very social. Socialization is awesome, everyone needs more socialization like they need a second a-hole.

Those weird homeschool kids missing out on all that great socialization. Where will they learn the right clothes to wear, that not having an iphone means your character is flawed, that you sit at the wrong table at lunch and if you're not friends with the "correct" people...you're a loser. But they sure get good socialization in where to sit, where to stand in line, to be quiet, that just when they might be interested in something the bell rings and they're forced to move on to the next subject...future employers love multitaskers.

What do I do extraordinary? Nothing. I'm normal or average and boring in every aspect. I'm OK with it.
I'm sorry that has been your experience. That was some of my experience in both public and private school when I was a kid and I've seen some really mean women as an working adult. Look at the families of mean kids. They usually have some sort of mean parent role model. You grow up and find out the mean kids were really the ones that didn't have the pot to pee in. They were mean to you to make themselves feel better.

My kids haven't really haven't been bullied much. On the few occasions that something nasty was said, another child stood up for them or my kids stood up for his/her self. My daughter will start sixth grade next year. I'm more worried about the mean girls.
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Old 12-10-2014, 12:10 PM
 
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My kids get a lot of great socialization at public school. The queen bee girls that call my son fat, that's social. The popular girls that call him gay, the other girls who say he has a small penis...good socialization there. The jock kids that teased my middle son for wearing wal mart shoes, that's social. And the pre-school teachers that keep pointing at my youngest son's face (he was born with a cranial facial malformation) and staring are all very social. Socialization is awesome, everyone needs more socialization like they need a second a-hole.

Those weird homeschool kids missing out on all that great socialization. Where will they learn the right clothes to wear, that not having an iphone means your character is flawed, that you sit at the wrong table at lunch and if you're not friends with the "correct" people...you're a loser. But they sure get good socialization in where to sit, where to stand in line, to be quiet, that just when they might be interested in something the bell rings and they're forced to move on to the next subject...future employers love multitaskers.

What do I do extraordinary? Nothing. I'm normal or average and boring in every aspect. I'm OK with it.
Yes, protecting your kids from the outside world always works well!

I guess you are planning to do online college, getting your kids a work from home job and arranging mail order spouses? You can do anything on the Internet these days.
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Old 12-10-2014, 01:53 PM
 
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I haven't done anything extraordinary, as I couldn't have children, but as a child the most extraordinary thing my mama did was shower my brother and me with huge amounts of love, hugs and kisses. Her greatest gift to me ever, was her love. I miss those hugs and kisses and I love yous these 20 years since she has been gone.
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Old 12-10-2014, 07:48 PM
 
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I'm sorry that has been your experience. That was some of my experience in both public and private school when I was a kid and I've seen some really mean women as an working adult. Look at the families of mean kids. They usually have some sort of mean parent role model. You grow up and find out the mean kids were really the ones that didn't have the pot to pee in. They were mean to you to make themselves feel better.

My kids haven't really haven't been bullied much. On the few occasions that something nasty was said, another child stood up for them or my kids stood up for his/her self. My daughter will start sixth grade next year. I'm more worried about the mean girls.
Most kids are great....some of their parents not so.much and that rubs off. Being bullied is not the default. ..it happens. ..it needs to be addressed quickly and strongly. ..but school is not this Lord of the Flies some in homeschooling community makes it out to be.

Not every homeschooling parent really had their kids best interest at heart either. There were 4 girls in my daughter's college dorm last year. ..one transitioned well....one ( the one my daughter was closest to) was doing okay but wanted to go home because she missed her younger siblings and the stress was starting to build....2 of them washed out and lost it. ...couldn't handle the independence, other people or the academics ( professors tend not to be as easy going on late papers and do overs as parents).

This year...a home schooled freshman got a taste of freedom and kissed a boy...when she confessed to her parents they **** shamed her so bad she went into the state forest near campus and killed herself 3 weeks into the school year.

For every positive outcome. ...and there are some. ..there are 4 or 5 tragic stories.
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