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Old 02-01-2015, 04:55 PM
 
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OTOH, it may be totally unnecessary for the parent to get a booster; ideally they should talk to their doctors. They can also get a titer to see if they are immune; if so, they don't need another dose. Of course, a booster never hurts.
If you've had two doses, you are very likely immune. No need to get a third dose. It's not a booster - you either develop antibodies, or you don't. If you didn't develop antibodies after two doses, unlikely you would after a third dose.
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Old 02-01-2015, 04:58 PM
 
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The measles virus can linger in the air for up to two hours and babies under a year old are especially at risk because they're too young to receive the vaccine.


That didn't used to be the case when the mother had already HAD natural measles. She would have passed her own immunity down to the child and babies never got measles. Looks like either everybody's got to get vaccinated or nobody should get vaccinated. There's no "in between."

Since the mothers are no longer passing their immunity down to their babies, then I guess I'd be FOR getting everyone vaccinated. Realistically, not many mothers today have the "luxury" of staying home for two weeks to care for a kid with the measles anyway, no matter what age the kid is. My mother did and she and my dad took turns reading to me. Neighbors lent piles of books so that I could be read to--you had to be careful for the entire TWO WEEKS. Two boring weeks in bed and not feeling sick, feeling so good that you wanted to go out and play--but therein lay the danger. Resuming normal activity too soon!!!!!
This is not true. Maternal antibody is GONE by six months old, usually by four months old. I had measles before I was a year old, brought home to me by older sibs. And my mother, of course, had had measles, so had natural immunity.
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Old 02-01-2015, 04:59 PM
 
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Because they don't protect a child past breastfeeding.
Even breastfeeding by an immune mother is not a surefire safeguard. Cannot depend upon that.
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Old 02-01-2015, 05:00 PM
 
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If you've had two doses, you are very likely immune. No need to get a third dose. It's not a booster - you either develop antibodies, or you don't. If you didn't develop antibodies after two doses, unlikely you would after a third dose.
I don't think you understood what I was saying. First of all, I'm not talking about myself; a) I was born before 1957; b) I have a documented history of having measles, and I also remember having it. Secondly, I meant the person should talk to their doctor as we don't have their entire health history. Finally, I meant that even if they've had two doses, a third will do no harm, and, as you said, would be simpler than a titer. I don't know how insurance pays for immunizations like this that aren't generally recommended for adults.

The peds office where I work has not changed its MMR policy yet. When I walk in to work Weds, that may be different. We've only had one case here in CO, fortunately.
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Old 02-01-2015, 05:02 PM
 
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This is the 3 yr old who contracted the measles despite getting the first dose of the MMR:

https://gma.yahoo.com/mom-3-old-meas...-wellness.html
About 5% of people don't develop immunity after the first dose. For that reason, kids receive a second dose, usually at 4-5 yrs old. But you only have to wait 4 weeks between doses. It's not that the kid is too young.

This is about to become a public health emergency. Pediatricians should be giving the second doses right now to all kids who are more than a month out from the first dose, who haven't yet received the second dose.
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Old 02-01-2015, 05:04 PM
 
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About 5% of people don't develop immunity after the first dose. For that reason, kids receive a second dose, usually at 4-5 yrs old. But you only have to wait 4 weeks between doses. It's not that the kid is too young.

This is about to become a public health emergency. Pediatricians should be giving the second doses right now to all kids who are more than a month out from the first dose, who haven't yet received the second dose.
There has been no direction from CDC, AAP, or any other group that I know of to change policy.
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Old 02-01-2015, 05:09 PM
 
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There has been no direction from CDC, AAP, or any other group that I know of to change policy.
That's my point! It's time, now, to do this. CDC didn't give directions regarding Ebola screening and quarantine here until after the horse was out of the barn, either.

Kids who've had only one dose are at risk. So are babies too young to have received the MMR. It's time to give the second dose early. In certain areas, it's probably now warranted to give a dose of MMR before the baby is 12 months, too.
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Old 02-01-2015, 05:11 PM
 
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Here's one for the medical professionals...

Is virus shedding an issue for the injected measles vaccine?
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Old 02-01-2015, 05:12 PM
 
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Measles is airborne. It's highly contagious. It remains infectious in an enormous area over an hour after someone infected has passed through. If you wanted to protect your baby, you'd have to never take him out of the house until after he was a year old.

Or we could enforce universal immunization for measles on everyone who doesn't have a MEDICAL exemption. Then the babies would be safe.
True, but considering the outbreak is still not that widespread at all and the vast majority of people ARE vaccinated, keeping the baby away from large gatherings of people/kids should be sufficient to protect them. Being out in the fresh air is usually not an issue, it's indoors where it tends to linger. Also, something as simple as keeping them in the stroller and pulling up the hood and/or throwing a light sheet over it will help keep them away from most of the germs - a 10 month old might not approve of that, but that's what I did at under 6 months if I had to go into a mall, store, bus, etc. As it is, your baby is probably at a much higher danger of serious complications from catching the flu.

Mandatory vaccinations would be great, however in our overly politically correct society with the hippie moms rallying their rights to 'belief exemptions', I just don't see it happening any time soon
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Old 02-01-2015, 05:16 PM
 
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True, but considering the outbreak is still not that widespread at all and the vast majority of people ARE vaccinated, keeping the baby away from large gatherings of people/kids should be sufficient to protect them. Being out in the fresh air is usually not an issue, it's indoors where it tends to linger. As it is, your baby is probably at a much higher danger of serious complications from catching the flu.

Mandatory vaccinations would be great, however in our overly politically correct society with the hippie moms rallying their rights to 'belief exemptions', I just don't see it happening any time soon
The vaccine issue has a remarkable ability to unite people on opposite ends of the political spectrum. It's not just hippie moms.
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