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I'd say right about when it changes from being critical of the action, to being critical of the child. And, yelling really isn't effective. If you want to get their attention, try whispering.
I would agree with Mattie. If the discipline moves away from attempting to correct the action to criticizing the child.
And this is harder for younger kids to grasp because they automatically think you are being critical of them. Which is why when my son was younger and he'd say, "I'm a bad kid!" when I put him in time out (or hand out some other punishment), I'd say, "No, you are a great kid who made a mistake - so we need to fix the reason why you made the mistake."
Verbally abusive is when you break the child down with no regards for anything. It has nothing to do with being strict. You could be the most lax parent around but on occasions call out their child for their weight, looks, intelligence, etc etc etc.
Yeah I dont think strict is on a continuum with verbal abuse. Strict isnt tearing down a child, verbal abuse is.
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