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Originally Posted by Kibbiekat
You seem to be responding only to the post title. Typically people respond to the actual post and link. You aren't going to convince any sane person that this is OK.
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I am trying to do both actually - but I think the thread has essentially very quickly reached consensus on the actual article in the OP. Clearly there are few people who would not curtail - quite heavily - the activities of a convicted pederast or paedophile with children - let alone in scenarios specifically related to nudity or physical contact.
If you want to comment solely or predominantly about the article therefore - the thread is essentially already over. We have consensus and very little - if anything - in the way of dissent to that consensus.
So I find the actual OP question to be useful to discuss. There is some discussion to be had there to those interested or willing. Certainly none that is going to be stimulated by merely declaring your own position "sane" however. That is the opposite of discussion - with its direct implications on the sanity of anyone who disagrees with you.
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Originally Posted by HighFlyingBird
Such an original argument. "American's are such ________, look at how great it is in Japan, UK, etc"
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I would certainly not make that argument and I am not sure who has. In fact my position is the opposite. I do not think we should be making value judgement comparisons at all - but instead merely acknowledge that those cultural differences exist - and do not support the position of "It is wrong because it just is".
What we do see is that there is a continuum of cultural norms across our planet in regards nudity. (Just look at threads on breast feeding in public for example - or threads commenting on how people like the Germans in the summer at their "Freibads" will eave children of all ages running around in public entirely nude) And while I would NEVER come down on one part of that continuum and declare it "right" or "wrong" - I similarly would not stand by and see one declared the moral good and the other norms to be "wrong" "insane" or any of the other implications trotted out on the thread.
IS there anything wrong with it? If so _What_??? Because all I am seeing on the thread is "Just because".
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Originally Posted by xRedd
Well actually he already addressed the article... He discussed what he thought about the article, and then gave his opinion on the matter if it were to happen in a different circumstance.
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Thank you. I often worry that perhaps the failure in communication is mine and I am failing to use words to get my point across correctly. So it is good when someone else understands me.
I do not believe it to be a communication problem. I think it is an emotional one. Protecting our children from sexual exploitation is a massively emotive topic in our culture - especially in the last 10 years - and I think people get so emotive when discussing it - that communication gets difficult - and all one can do is remain patient and concise and clear until the words simply cut through the emotion.
So thanks again.
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Originally Posted by HighFlyingBird
And if you search "Japanese bath house teenagers" all you get is copious links to porn.
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LOL I hate when that happens. Actually as a bit of light side reading to lighten the mood which is in danger of descending rapidly right now
you might enjoy this post from another poster on this forum which he posted on a different forum. Its about children, but also about the way you can look up something on the internet and get totally the wrong thing
Put a smile on my face anyway.
A rep to you for the giggle all the same.
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