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Old 10-15-2015, 06:41 AM
 
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Maybe if more kids these days got their little asses beat they'd fly straight. I know it helped when I was young. You didn't see the bull**** you see nowadays.
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Old 10-15-2015, 06:48 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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Yeah, the kids NEVER fail the parent(s), its always the parent(s) failing the kids

And corporal punishment is NOT against the law no matter how much you want it to be.

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I agree with you. What that mother was saying was 100% on target. I think that many are actually ignorant of what a mother living in the area where she is living is like and that was a rough area when I was child there 50 years ago. She trying to "save" her children from ending up dead.

Here at C-D, blacks are constantly under attack for being on welfare, having children out-of-wedlock, criminal behavior (even though ALL races have the same problems) and this mother is well aware of what the future might hold for her children. And, now, a mother that spanks her child, doesn't leave a mark because the child is brought home in HANDCUFFS in the back of a POLICE CAR from the school who has rejected the child by expelling her because they couldn't handle her with probably "time-out". So, she was dumped by the school because the discipline they could provide wasn't working.

The mother did not beat her child. I think you all that think this is "beating" have no idea what a "beating" is. When I was a child, everyone was spanked and there was much less violence. Children didn't attack the parents, the teachers or one another. We learned to self-discipline unless we wanted another spanking. I spanked both of my boys. Neither have ever shown any violence. My older son is 38 years old and a LTC in the military and the younger one is 29 and has developmental disabilities and while others his age that didn't have discipline are now heavily medicated to control their behavior, he is medication free because he developed self-discipline.

I think a lot of the issue is that people just don't realize the desperation when it comes to mothers like this trying to save their children. In these areas, mothers find their children dead on the street. Gang shootings down but violence up overall in South Bend - South Bend Tribune: Public Safety and http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime...d-Indiana.html and maybe we should be punishing the parents for not spanking: Domenick Maglio Ph.D.

Everyone that I know that was spanked, and that is everyone that I know, was not permanently harmed. If spanking is what causes children to be violent, why with spanking decreased have we seen such an increase in crime and violence.

I came across this article and maybe it says it all since I did feel loved and was spanked: Smacking does children no harm if they feel loved, study claims - Telegraph

I am sorry for those that came from families where they were actually beaten and not spanked. Those families were most likely having problems with mental illness or addictions that drove them over the edge. I don't think that you can beat your child and love them. A lot of people resent their kids and use them to take their anger out on, the "kick the dog" when you are angry at someone with whom you don't have the balls to actually confront. The drunk and drugged beatings, well, that trash are the ones that need to be visited by child protective services.

More programs are needed in areas like this but budget constraints limit them just like they do across the US. We constantly rush to the aid of foreign children, throw open the door to illegals entering the country and provide services but these people, like the one in the article are forgotten until the point that a story comes out like this and everyone who doesn't have a clue what it is like to be her shoes starts pointing a finger.
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Old 10-15-2015, 07:46 AM
 
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So she's teaching her daughter that violence is ok. "Whooping" your child is violence. Great role model mom. You are making yourself look like a fool. I surprised her kid's first word wasn't the "F" word. If she cared so much why was her daughter expelled and brought home in handcuffs at 10? Why isn't her son doing well in school? She has another case with DCS so this isn't the first time that she's been in trouble for hitting her daughter.

I'm originally from St. Joseph County in South Bend and there are good parts and bad parts just like any other city in the country.
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Old 10-15-2015, 08:02 AM
 
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My first thoughts was "maybe this woman needs parenting classes". Then I watched the video. Those cps workers were saints. This woman needs lithium not parenting classes. Poor kids. I love how the mom blames her trouble with her kids on other people and doesn't turn the camera at her self to see the real problem.
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Old 10-15-2015, 08:14 AM
 
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Yeah, the kids NEVER fail the parent(s), its always the parent(s) failing the kids
Yes. That is the job we take on when we become parents. Responsible for the raising of our kids.
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Old 10-15-2015, 08:18 AM
 
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There's no excuse for beating a child. None. Ever. Under any circumstances.

I doubt if this was the first time this child was beaten. The woman ought to be asking herself if her method of parenting is contributing to why her child was expelled.
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Old 10-15-2015, 08:22 AM
 
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Here at C-D, blacks are constantly under attack for being on welfare, having children out-of-wedlock, criminal behavior (even though ALL races have the same problems) and this mother is well aware of what the future might hold for her children. And, now, a mother that spanks her child, doesn't leave a mark because the child is brought home in HANDCUFFS in the back of a POLICE CAR from the school who has rejected the child by expelling her because they couldn't handle her with probably "time-out". So, she was dumped by the school because the discipline they could provide wasn't working.

The mother did not beat her child. I think you all that think this is "beating" have no idea what a "beating" is. When I was a child, everyone was spanked and there was much less violence. Children didn't attack the parents, the teachers or one another. We learned to self-discipline unless we wanted another spanking. I spanked both of my boys. Neither have ever shown any violence.

Everyone that I know that was spanked, and that is everyone that I know, was not permanently harmed. If spanking is what causes children to be violent, why with spanking decreased have we seen such an increase in crime and violence.
Violent crime has steadily declined over the last 30 years.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/17/up...rime.html?_r=0
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Old 10-15-2015, 09:56 AM
 
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Fortunately, it is against the law to beat a child. I don't care what the mother felt her options were, she was wrong. And it is our business, because the child is 10 yrs old. Somebody failed her, quite possibly several people. There is no good reason to perpetuate the abuse.
Please do not exaggerate. It is not against the law anywhere in the US to physically punish a child as long as this is done within reason and does not cause any inquiries. I am not sure this is always the best method of raising children but it is not against the law. I will see the video later so I don't yet have an opinion about this episode.
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Old 10-15-2015, 10:13 AM
 
Location: NYC
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I didn't want to watch an almost fifteen minute video. The mom said she 'whooped her child'. That can vary largely from spanking to beating. Unless there was more in the video of exactly what the mother did, I can't give a solid opinion.
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Old 10-15-2015, 10:44 AM
 
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I didn't want to watch an almost fifteen minute video. The mom said she 'whooped her child'. That can vary largely from spanking to beating. Unless there was more in the video of exactly what the mother did, I can't give a solid opinion.
DSS was there to check for any marks that were left on the 10 year old girl. This isn't the first time that DSS was called on the mom. She left marks on her daughter's face once before. See, the mom doesn't believe in a man hitting a woman (I can totally agree with that) so when her 10 year old was hitting her brother (don't know the age as the mom never says in the video)the mom hits the girl for the brother.

The video is wrong on so many levels. She's teaching her kids to disrespect authority wait...I'm sure they already do and she's blaming the wrong people in the video. She needs to turn that camera on herself.
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