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Old 01-05-2016, 12:37 PM
 
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I guess I don't see it as a mirtal sin to expose other people to a kid with a cold. There are germs in the world. If you are that concerned about being exposed to a sniffle or a scratchy throat, then it's probably best to use the drive thrus and just stay home all winter long. A very sick child should stay home, but lingering coughs, runny noses, etc, are just par for the course in the winter.
And there is NO way to avoid it at school.
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Old 01-05-2016, 12:40 PM
 
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I guess I don't see it as a mirtal sin to expose other people to a kid with a cold. There are germs in the world. If you are that concerned about being exposed to a sniffle or a scratchy throat, then it's probably best to use the drive thrus and just stay home all winter long. A very sick child should stay home, but lingering coughs, runny noses, etc, are just par for the course in the winter.
The most realistic post on here.
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Old 01-05-2016, 01:10 PM
 
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Kids tend to be resilient. I can't count how many times my daughter got a runny nose and the sniffles, but professed to feel fine. Typically that mild cold would be gone in a day or two and she wouldn't skip a beat. Occasionally, just a handful of times, the same sort of symptoms would appear and by the time evening fell a fever had spiked and she was laid out on the couch. I think with kids, sometimes it's hard to gauge how they really feel because they don't want to let it slow them down. Finally, when they do slow down its a screeching halt.

Then of course there are parents like my dad who believe that saying in bed only makes you sicker. We got one day to rest and then no matter how we were feeling we had to get up and go outside to get fresh air, even if it was only for a little bit.

Personally, I'll let other parents be the judge of how sick their kids are. Who knows if that mom you saw was shopping for clothing for an interview that was the next day? Might say she should postpone but she may need that job. There are just too many variables.
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Old 01-05-2016, 02:13 PM
 
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People really wait until they are all the way out of toilet paper, food and medicine before getting more?
Have they not heard of Amazon subscribe and save? I get a delivery of TP, toothpaste, soap and clorox wipes every two months. They also have Amazon prime pantry for food delivery and I also know of some groceries that let you order online and pick it up.
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Old 01-05-2016, 04:05 PM
 
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Have they not heard of Amazon subscribe and save? I get a delivery of TP, toothpaste, soap and clorox wipes every two months. They also have Amazon prime pantry for food delivery and I also know of some groceries that let you order online and pick it up.
Some people prefer to support local businesses (and also don't want to deal with massive amounts of extra boxes from shipping). And not every place has a pick up service. I found out we did at a local store but it takes 24 hours from order and they charge a lot more per product. Id use it if a bug was raging through the house. But if I was in a pinch and out of tylenol and my baby had a fever, I'd make a quick run for it. Not everyone has support system of friends or family who will watch your kids if they are sick. Luckily my kids take the pills now, so I buy huge bottles and we never run out. But when they were little, those chewable and liquid ones always seemed to run out so fast.

I'm just wondering if people who think you should keep your child home through ALL symptoms have kids over 4th grade. They will fail school if they get a couple colds in the year from the missed days. Yes fever, diarrhea, vomiting, lice. But if they have a sore throat, sniffles, a cough, but are managing alright, they go to school. Its good training for adulthood where you have to go to work when you are sick. You cover your mouth, watch your hands, toss your tissues, etc. Teachers expect and ask that kids do come under those conditions...they don't outright ask. But they lean on you if your kid has been out for several days. And they are missing important lessons that they will either not learn or have to somehow make up. All my kids teachers have wanted them at school unless the bug is bad.

All these viruses are contagious BEFORE there are symptoms. Keeping your kid home is mostly about their comfort because the great big world is full of illnesses floating around. Thats why hand soap was invented.

What about being sick as an adult? Sick adults make runs to the pharmacy and store all the time. They need medicine, TP, food, drinks.

Anyways, I think the OP was about people who drag miserable kids around for their own fun. I don't know anyone who does that. I think for the most part, I'll let the parents use their own judgement.
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Old 01-05-2016, 04:52 PM
 
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In a perfect world, school or employers wouldn't just pay lip service to "stay home sick", they would actually mean it. I KNOW and agree we don't live in that world. They want you to get drugged up enough you don't appear sick and work. same for school. Stay home every time you really should keep your germs to yourself and you're failing class, or fired.

Isn't this thread more about dragging about a violently ill kid for things that are not necessities? A vacation would be brutal to miss. We get insurance for that but man.... that would be the worst.

A script, you need that. Dinner if the pantry is so bare there isn't a complete meal in the house, need. But waiting in line for 20 mins or more for a fancy latte dragging along a child vomiting in the bag, who was walking like she was drunk she was so ill, who was repeatedly begging to go home between crying and vomiting. That is pretty cruel, if anyone thinks otherwise in a situation like that perhaps you shouldn't be in the care of anything (pets or children) with their own needs.
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Old 01-05-2016, 05:02 PM
 
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From a teacher's point of view, I expect colds, sniffles, and lingering coughs, all without fever. But if a child has a fever, for nearly every reason, he should stay home. Same thing for contagious illnesses such as flu, conjunctivitis, and strep. I've had to deal with all of those this year. Today it was the flu. I kept telling the child he needed to go home, but he couldn't even keep his head up. There is no one to come to get the students once they get to school if their parents are working.

A word to parents: School is demanding. If your child doesn't feel well in the morning, with any of the above symptoms, please leave them at home where they can rest and recover. It is unrealistic that they will feel better at the end of the day because of the demands of the school day. It's irresponsible socially to send infection vectors into a population that goes home to immune-system compromised family members. Please keep sick children at home.

BTW, aircraft ventilation systems are contaminated. Ever since I started wearing a mask on board, I have not contracted a single cold after air travel. The Asians have something with their mask practices in public.
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Old 01-05-2016, 05:29 PM
 
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From a teacher's point of view, I expect colds, sniffles, and lingering coughs, all without fever. But if a child has a fever, for nearly every reason, he should stay home. Same thing for contagious illnesses such as flu, conjunctivitis, and strep. I've had to deal with all of those this year. Today it was the flu. I kept telling the child he needed to go home, but he couldn't even keep his head up. There is no one to come to get the students once they get to school if their parents are working.

A word to parents: School is demanding. If your child doesn't feel well in the morning, with any of the above symptoms, please leave them at home where they can rest and recover. It is unrealistic that they will feel better at the end of the day because of the demands of the school day. It's irresponsible socially to send infection vectors into a population that goes home to immune-system compromised family members. Please keep sick children at home.

BTW, aircraft ventilation systems are contaminated. Ever since I started wearing a mask on board, I have not contracted a single cold after air travel. The Asians have something with their mask practices in public.
A child with a fever is likely to be feeling pretty rotten, anyways. Ive sent my (fever free) kids to school and had to pick them up mid-day, because, yep...its a hard day. Thats really for actively being ill. There are a lot of shades of grey...sometimes we guess wrong.

Conjunctivitis is my major pet peeve though. My daughter got sent home twice from preschool because her eye was a little red. Both times is was clearly allergies (as her allergy medicine cleared it up) but the preschool required a doctors note both times. They tried a third time (this was over 4 years) and I flat out refused to pick her up early or take her to the doctor. I just gave her her antihistamine before school for a while.
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Old 01-05-2016, 06:37 PM
 
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Ok, so I actually just remembered a person who took their kids to places when they were very sick, left them at school puking or with a fever, made them go on trips despite being quite ill. But she was a diagnosed Narcissist/Borderline and was a very terrible parent. She had no empathy what so ever. She was a hideous parent. Maybe this is what the post is about. But they aren't the majority at all. A special kind of minority that also happens to be evil?

Which also explains why I trust people to make decisions...because I don't go on associating with people who are like that.
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Old 01-05-2016, 07:55 PM
 
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From a teacher's point of view, I expect colds, sniffles, and lingering coughs, all without fever. But if a child has a fever, for nearly every reason, he should stay home. Same thing for contagious illnesses such as flu, conjunctivitis, and strep. I've had to deal with all of those this year. Today it was the flu. I kept telling the child he needed to go home, but he couldn't even keep his head up. There is no one to come to get the students once they get to school if their parents are working.

A word to parents: School is demanding. If your child doesn't feel well in the morning, with any of the above symptoms, please leave them at home where they can rest and recover. It is unrealistic that they will feel better at the end of the day because of the demands of the school day. It's irresponsible socially to send infection vectors into a population that goes home to immune-system compromised family members. Please keep sick children at home.

BTW, aircraft ventilation systems are contaminated. Ever since I started wearing a mask on board, I have not contracted a single cold after air travel. The Asians have something with their mask practices in public.
This is very true. I get a cold *every* time I fly (and have one now thanks to our flights last week). I didn't realize it until the ex pointed it out. He was right.
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