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Originally Posted by orrmobl
No I'm not confused, we are animals when it comes to biology. But when it comes to psychology we do not want to be referred to as animals as it implies we lack intelligence and free will.
I am a Stay at Home Dad. Househusband is derogatory, as is houswife. You seem to have a real knack for the antiquated and inflammatory.
Why would I be bitter? Women have been doing it for thousands of years. I thoroughly enjoy it and somebody has to do it, at least in my house they do.
I think you had better zip it lest the feminists and stay at home moms will be all over you like a bad habit, at least I hope they will.
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Since you call people anything YOU want I WILL refer to you as a househusband...if "housewife" was good enough for hundreds of years...suck it up

you've got a few more years to go!
As to: """No I'm not confused, we are animals when it comes to biology. But when it comes to psychology we do not want to be referred to as animals as it implies we lack intelligence and free will."""
Sorry, can't have it both ways. But at least you ANSWERED something!!!!!
But you have about seven more to go:
"""First, you speak for "most of us"...who IS "most of us" and how do YOU know how they feel ?
Second, jumping off a bridge is stupid and nowhere near as fun as sex....
Third, reproduction for SOME is NOT necessary....like me, other childfree people and nuns, priests, ands some monks, the infertile, etc.
Fourth, you say, """
All humans are living organisms. We are animals, sorry to break it to you. And those of us who choose to become parents don't like to be called breeders."""
Duh, animals BREED. Humans allegedly can make intelligent decisions...obviously YOU are an organism only.
Fifth, then you say,
""Do I really have to explain all this - how can people be disdainful of a process by which they came to be?""
WHERE did anyone say they were disdainful of the process? And even if they did your statement makes no sense whatsoever...we should reproduce because someone else did???That's just plain NUTS!
Sixth, you say, ""Not wanting to have kids is fine, looking down one's nose at those who do is delusional.""
What have YOU been doing but making nasty remarks, calling somone an ass????
Seventh, you talk in circles trapping yourself frequently,
"""And I believe those who are fanatically child free are afraid of not having their needs met for a change, of being inconvenienced, of not attaining all their material and career goals, and quite possibly of not being capable of loving and being loved.""
Paraphrasing: Those who are fanatically pumping out babies are afraid of not having their need for easy love fulfilled,,,better to have kids who will love you than be lovable so anyone else will

They are using children to cover for their lack of career success, material/financial loss.
Why are you " try(ing) to legitimize your choice by denigrating the choice of others?
Good night, can't wait until you get enough courage to answer.....