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Old 01-12-2016, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles>Little Rock>Houston>Little Rock
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What do you think is going to happen because of this? I don't understand why it is a problem.
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Old 01-12-2016, 01:25 PM
 
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Your Facebook page with pictures of your kids may be private but if you send them to your relatives/friends, you don't know if their pages are private. You also don't know if someone can gain access to your photos even though the privacy settings are used. Never assume that what's supposed to be private on the Internet is actually private.

If your neighbors' actions bother you, depending on how close you are, you could ask him to ask your permission before he films your child again.
This, how naïve to think having your FB private means anything.

Nothing is private on the Internet.
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Old 01-12-2016, 01:33 PM
 
Location: southwestern PA
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Nothing is private on the Internet.
Truth... yet so many think otherwise!
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Old 01-12-2016, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Tucson for awhile longer
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I absolutely agree with you. NO ONE should be posting photos or videos of other people (let alone their children!) without permission. I've been a stalking victim. I don't wish that on anyone. People who are so eager to have exciting Facebook pages have NO IDEA what kind of danger they could be putting another person in by posting photos without permission.

If someone gives you permission, fine. If someone is a public figure and they willingly pose for a photo with you, post it.

But keep other private citizens off your Facebook pages unless they specifically tell you it's OK. Just because some people don't respect the boundaries of others doesn't make those boundaries wrong. We should all have the freedom to set our limits and to set limits for our children. You have no idea how many pedophiles are out there trolling Facebook for photos of kids they can sexualize.
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Old 01-12-2016, 02:29 PM
 
Location: NYC
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If you aren't comfortable with it just ask your neighbor to take it down. In this day and age it is very common for people to take videos/pictures and post them on social media without asking.
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Old 01-12-2016, 03:20 PM
 
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I absolutely agree with you. NO ONE should be posting photos or videos of other people (let alone their children!) without permission. I've been a stalking victim. I don't wish that on anyone. People who are so eager to have exciting Facebook pages have NO IDEA what kind of danger they could be putting another person in by posting photos without permission. {snip}
First off, let me say that as a former stalking victim you deserve all the sympathy in the world.

Even so, I still have to disagree with you.

For one thing, as awful as your situation is, it shouldn't dictate the way the entire realm of public photography and casual snapshots among friends works. Truth be told, almost for sure, I would guess at a 99.9997% rate, any photos of others in circulation don't fit this very unfortunate narrative. Why should all of that have to stop, or deal with the inconvenience of consent, because of the 0.00003% or whatever? If someone simply says "I'd rather not participate in that," or they NICELY ask for some restraint, then that's perhaps OK, but for everyone to have to stop and ask every single time, that's inconvenient, and that absolutely matters. To me, the onus is on the 0.000003% to deliberately INFORM of their preferences (and not be surprised when in public it's not honored and when friends perhaps oppose the limitation even as they respect it), it's not on the 99.999997% to have to ask every single time they press a button or share something.

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What do you think is going to happen because of this? I don't understand why it is a problem.
Other than paranoia, me either.

As for pedophiles simply seeing photos of your children and presumably pleasuring themselves to it, as sick and such as that is, dare I say it--so what? Why does that even matter at all? As sick as that is, and it certainly is sick, it's not actually harming anybody. If such meant that your child could be kidnapped, then that would be one thing, and in the few cases where that may be a real risk (custody disagreements that have gone down an awful path) that is one thing, but overall day-to-day, I think the risk is WAY overblown and not reason enough for it to be considered that one should never take photos of people without their permission. Where would the photos seen in those Henri Cartier-Bresson museums be if he had asked permission every time he practiced his "street photography?"

And yes, I will say that I do think that people not in these 0.00003% situations who are stubborn about not letting others take photos of their children for their proper enjoyment, where they are NOT in a custody or "stalker" type of situation, I think it's selfish. I can't imagine, say, someone being a grandparent and being told they can't take photos of their own grandchildren and show them to other people because of this irrational fear of pedophiles and/or abduction. I would hate that most awfully, and frankly, I don't think parents SHOULD be able to make that choice solely of themselves. I think especially in those cases, or in cases where there are many others around such as plays or sports, the 0.00003% should fully expect that photos WILL occur and that if they don't wish for this, they may find their child is limited in what they can participate in, because it's totally natural that people will want to take photos of the event and not have to go through aggravations of "framing around" the special 0.000003% cases.

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Old 01-12-2016, 03:27 PM
 
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I would tell him that your daughter was just getting over a bad case of head lice, and you sure hope he didn't catch anything...

Personally I would be really annoyed if some random man took his hat off his own head and put it on my kid. That's not hygienic.
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Old 01-12-2016, 03:34 PM
 
Location: At the corner of happy and free
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I absolutely agree with you. NO ONE should be posting photos or videos of other people (let alone their children!) without permission. I've been a stalking victim. I don't wish that on anyone. People who are so eager to have exciting Facebook pages have NO IDEA what kind of danger they could be putting another person in by posting photos without permission.

If someone gives you permission, fine. If someone is a public figure and they willingly pose for a photo with you, post it.

But keep other private citizens off your Facebook pages unless they specifically tell you it's OK. Just because some people don't respect the boundaries of others doesn't make those boundaries wrong. We should all have the freedom to set our limits and to set limits for our children. You have no idea how many pedophiles are out there trolling Facebook for photos of kids they can sexualize.
Do you have stats on that, or are you just presuming that many pedophiles do this? I would not have guessed that Facebook would be the primary place most creeps would go for that. Unfortunately, there are plenty of child porn sites, kiddie beauty pageant websites and videos, etc.

And I would guess that if some pedophile wanted to find a child to actually target, he'd just look in real life (neighborhood, playground, etc), not find some random child on Facebook, then go abduct that child.

But those are all my assumptions, and I could be completely wrong. That's why I asked if you have stats about pedophiles and Facebook.
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Old 01-12-2016, 03:37 PM
 
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Am I over-reacting? Hubby says I am. A neighbor down the street from us (we live in a subdivision, all of top of each other) posted a 10 second video of my daughter to his Facebook page. He is a big sports fan and put his sport team hat on her and filmed her wearing it with a quote along the lines this is what happens when your child hangs out with my child. Hubby knows the neighbor well as our kids play together. It bothers ME. All of his 500 friends are seeing this video and feel like he should have asked me or hubby if it was ok to post. Hubby told me to text/tell him directly if I had a problem with it. Yes, I have lots of pics on my Facebook page of my kids, which is private, but funny thing is, I do not have one single video of my children on Facebook. Thoughts?
So it is fine if you post a photo that can be printed but your neighbor cannot post a 10 second video?
Does that really make any sense to you? If you were that concerned with your child's safety online you would have no photos of your child posted anywhere online.
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Old 01-12-2016, 03:40 PM
 
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The guy was rude not to ask your permission to post a video of your little girl. Ask him (or have your husband ask him) politely to take it down if it makes you uncomfortable.
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