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Old 01-28-2016, 07:24 AM
 
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Okay, here we go - someone who can determine the entire disposition of another based on a single post. ARE YOU KIDDING?!?!?! This attitude reminds me of some of the self-absorbed, misanthropic miscreants my child and I encountered on a Halloween night a while back.
Not kidding at all. The father brings his daughter to a stranger's door and is appalled that the woman inside yelled at them to go away after the daughter LOOKED IN THE WINDOW. My father would have laughed and told me it served me right, but it would never have occurred to me to do something like that unless I knew the person very well.

The mother wanted to write a letter telling this woman off. That's nuts. Seriously, who does that?

Yes indeed, to me, it fully indicates that the parents have a very poor conception of boundaries and their daughter has absorbed that.

You don't look in people's windows. This is just common sense and common courtesy.
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Old 01-28-2016, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Central IL
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You think everyone is just lining up to buy cookies from your cute daughter? If so, I guess there's no reason for you to accompany her...

People have issues...whether it's just a really bad day, or dementia, mental illness, uncontrollable pain. It's a lesson for your daughter...and I'm assuming by having her go out and sell stuff part of the idea is to educate girls on "small business" or whatever - and how to grow a thicker skin.
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Old 01-28-2016, 08:28 AM
 
Location: IN
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Not kidding at all. The father brings his daughter to a stranger's door and is appalled that the woman inside yelled at them to go away after the daughter LOOKED IN THE WINDOW. My father would have laughed and told me it served me right, but it would never have occurred to me to do something like that unless I knew the person very well.

The mother wanted to write a letter telling this woman off. That's nuts. Seriously, who does that?

Yes indeed, to me, it fully indicates that the parents have a very poor conception of boundaries and their daughter has absorbed that.

You don't look in people's windows. This is just common sense and common courtesy.
WELL SAID!
These sort of parents kill me. They usually have ill mannered loud brats for children.
I spent many many years as a housewife in affluent areas and logged much time with these types.
My four were astounded when they'd witness what some of their playmates got away with i.e. throwing things/hitting each other/ screaming/arguing with Mother.
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Old 01-28-2016, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I find it interesting that of that whole post of mine, which was fairly short, you pick this issue to disagree. But I'll answer. I've been a visiting nurse. I've probably knocked on more doors/rung more doorbells than anyone on this thread. If a patient/family member didn't answer after I announced myself that way, I'd knock/ring again. In that case, I might look inside to try to get their attention. If I didn't have an appt. after two attempts, I'd probably just push my business card under the door and leave. I have decent peripheral vision. If someone was right in front of the glass panels, I'd probably see them w/o trying to. I would not, however, try to peer into the house.

What about the part about not needing any reason to not answer the door, even to the police? What about the part about people not always getting the very large hint that you're not wanting to answer your door.
Rereading this, I see I left something out. My mind must work faster than my fingers. RE: the bold, I meant to put "if I had an appointment" at the beginning.
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Old 01-28-2016, 10:10 AM
 
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This is just "one of those things." Someone didn't welcome strangers at her door... it happens. There's no need to write letters or get up in arms over it. Just explain to the kiddo that some people are not likely to open doors to strangers and she shouldn't take any of it personally. It is no reflection on her. There are a hundred different reasons why the woman in the house was unable to receive visitors at that moment. She could have had something going on or she could just be a jerk. (I personally wouldn't feel comfortable yelling at a small child to go away, since I wouldn't want to hurt the kid's feelings.) But not knowing what was happening inside the house, we're unable to really make a judgment.
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Old 01-28-2016, 10:12 AM
 
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This is just "one of those things." Someone didn't welcome strangers at her door... it happens. There's no need to write letters or get up in arms over it. Just explain to the kiddo that some people are not likely to open doors to strangers and she shouldn't take any of it personally. It is no reflection on her. There are a hundred different reasons why the woman in the house was unable to receive visitors at that moment. She could have had something going on or she could just be a jerk. (I personally wouldn't feel comfortable yelling at a small child to go away, since I wouldn't want to hurt the kid's feelings.) But not knowing what was happening inside the house, we're unable to really make a judgment.
Come Holloween, instead of candy give the boys who ring your bell boxes of eggs with this old hags address.
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Old 01-28-2016, 10:33 AM
 
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This is a pretty amusing thread. I can't stand door to door sales, so I would never do this with my kids in the first place. I remember doing stuff like this as a child and I HATED it. I have found other ways for our offspring to be enterprising.

The OPs daughter is 8 years old. That is plenty old enough to know not to look in the windows. If this had been me, I would have reminded my child about correct etiquette regarding such a front entrance as we approached the house. I do find these types of front doors annoying, but it is still on us as guests, both wanted and unwanted, to use the proper manners. The rude (maybe, we don't really know) lady inside would have been a complete non issue - for all the many reasons already mentioned.

I am perplexed that a letter was even considered. ROTFLMAO! The teen years are going to be a hoot!
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Old 01-28-2016, 10:52 AM
 
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I'm sorry but as I see it, the woman did not yell at an 8 yr old girl scout selling cookies; she yelled at some insistent person ringing her bell or knocking on her door. She did not wish to stop what she was doing - never mind what she was doing - and I don't think she was rude at all.


So her door was open. Her TV was on. She was visible to any "rude" person peering into her window. HER window. Her prerogative.


So Mommy wants to call her out for traumatizing her little one. How bizarre can this story get?


Sometimes, MY phone rings and I choose not to answer it. Sometimes, MY doorbell rings but I don't feel any obligation to answer. MY phone, MY door, MY house, MY choice.


I suggest that Dad print out little "sorry we missed you" notes with a phone number where a person can place an order for cookies. When someone fails to answer the door, assume it's not convenient and leave them the little note before moving along.


Consider that a convicted Peeping Tom may be required to register as a sexual deviant.
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Old 01-28-2016, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Fairfield of the Ohio
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I was assisting my 8 yr old daughter selling girl scout cookies, going door to door. We approached this one house, daughter rang the doorbell. Since the door had side glass panels, we could both see inside the house. My daughter peeks in, and we can both see a lady sitting on the couch, looking at us, waving and shouting "GO AWAY", over and over. By her tone, she was not happy to see us there.

I rolled my eyes, but my 8 yr old daughter was a bit shaken up, she could not understand why she was being treated like that. I can understand a person's reaction to any type of door-to-door sales person, but to an 8 yr old girl selling girl scout cookies, i thought it was really rude, inconsiderate and over the top. My lesson to my daughter - that person is exactly the type of person you do *not* want to be when growing up. One can not be interested, but polite at the same time.

Now here's the dillema. My wife was extremely angry over what had happened, and wants to send a letter to that home, calling her out on her rudeness. At the same time she would be polite about it, including a "no solicitors" sign so they can ensure other girls are not impacted by their rudeness. I'm saying leave it be, if that person wants to be rude in their home, that is their right.

Thoughts?
Peaking into houses is rude. Selling cookies door to door to people you don't know is dangerous.
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Old 01-28-2016, 11:21 AM
 
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Peaking into houses is rude. Selling cookies door to door to people you don't know is dangerous.
When I was really little we used to sell Cub Scout Raffle tickets door to door when I was around 8 years old by myself and sometimes with my ten year old brother.

Back then we lived in Bronx. Started out after school doing it but Moms with kids home from school, getting dinner for husband on table did not want to go to cookie jar for tickets. Plus prizes were kinda more manly. TV, Liquor, Yankee tickets. And it was a raffle so you got nothing but a receipt.

We then quickly figured from our own Dad, they are cranky when they get home from work, not til they had dinner plop in recliner and have a few beers do they chill out. We started going out between 8pm and 10pm and sold a boat load.

Back then not everyone had a color TV so it was a really big deal to win one.
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