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Old 06-08-2016, 10:30 AM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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i tend to believe that a lot of the parents in my area are like me on this. dont disagree with the message but would rather them be the ones to decide how its presented or deal with it when it comes up. i live in an upper middle class suburb in a town that has a highly regarded school system. people move here for the school system. parents tend to be involved and care. Moderator cut: delete
I'm 49 years old. I recall learning about families in kindergarten. I recall drawing pictures of our families, discussing our families, etc.

So this is really nothing new.

The reason schools teach about non-traditional families is....they have students with non-traditional families.

 
Old 06-08-2016, 10:45 AM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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NO.....the term family literally means tradition. A non traditional family is not a real family but some strange arrangement made out of some perceived need. Also school is about educating our children not indoctrination....Let me teach my own kids about tradition and sex and marriage....let the school teach math. Why is it that people can not stick to the rules and keep our institutions from blending together....into some mess....We keep church and state separate. Lets keep sex and school separate.
What do you mean, "NO"? Are you denying that learning about families is standard kindergarten fare and has been for decades?

You are the one attempting to interject sex into the discussion; the school did not.
 
Old 06-08-2016, 10:49 AM
 
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What do you mean, "NO"? Are you denying that learning about families is standard kindergarten fare and has been for decades?

You are the one attempting to interject sex into the discussion; the school did not.
Okay lazy reading on my part.
 
Old 06-08-2016, 10:50 AM
 
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I cannot understand why children in non-traditional families ( and YES, they ARE families), should ever have to feel their reality is in any way wrong.
 
Old 06-08-2016, 10:52 AM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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i dont see it as the school's job to teach my kid to not be hateful. that's my job. the 1st amendment is also the law of the land and it is everyone's right to be hateful. i dont need the school to have lessons on how to be a good person. that's called parenting.
Schools can be sued for not preventing bullying. So yes, it is their job to teach children to not be hateful to each other.
 
Old 06-08-2016, 11:00 AM
 
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The world is different,their kids who might wonder about interracial relationships,no different then same sex couples.My suggestion is to explain to your daughter the best you can.
 
Old 06-08-2016, 11:15 AM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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I cannot understand why children in non-traditional families ( and YES, they ARE families), should ever have to feel their reality is in any way wrong.
Even if you do personally feel that some other family is "wrong", it has nothing to do with the children from that family.
 
Old 06-08-2016, 12:22 PM
 
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Also to be really blunt regarding the new sex education.....What business is it of the state and school to be concerned about what my kids are going to do with their vagina or penis....why such an interest in MY kids and sex? The school and state should mind their own business......This is what happens when you have crazy people in government...they project THEIR ideas on our school system.


Here is the perfect example of this dysfunction. I am in TORONTO in the province of ONTARIO. We have the first PRIEMER of Ontario who is openly lesbian. When she was first elected her primary advisor on sexual education was in the forefront regarding media. NOW...you do not hear of this man because recently he was convicted for the possession of child pornography.


Strangely no one talks about this...that a man who was crafting sex ed curriculum for the children of Ontario secretly wanted to have sex with children....go figure.
We had a similar situation in our public schools. They put a person who had multiple accusations (don't know of any formal charges) of sexual harassment in charge of educating staff throughout the district about sexual harassment! No, it was not a form of treatment/punishment for him. Unbelievable, but true. He was slime. I had first-hand experience of his sliminess and had colleagues who experienced the same.

That said, there are crazy people in all walks of life.

Regarding state intervention, if more parents would do their due diligence, perhaps there would be less of a need for proper sex education. We see constantly that parents are "dropping the ball" in teaching their children even the basics of behavior.
 
Old 06-08-2016, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Talking about families is not sex education. No one is telling 5 year olds how men and women have sex together and they aren't telling them about same sex sexual encounters.

They are discussing families which include other types besides a married man and woman. And yes, 50 or 60 years ago, someone could have been equally upset that class materials might have shown an interracial family - but that didn't mean they didn't exist, just like same sex couple headed families exist now.

All children in the class are entitled to see their family type included when families are discussed, not just the ones who happen to be in families where there is a married man and woman.
 
Old 06-08-2016, 12:36 PM
 
Location: here
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this is exactly why my niece home schools she does not want a public school teaching values that are not hers nor her husbands so they decided before the child was born that they were going to homeschool . If you are offended by a public school that does not teach your values then you should home school or put them in private school or a church run school .
I don't get this. Teaching that some families have 2 moms is factual . It's not a value judgement. Teaching kids not to bully other kids based on their family structure is a value . Does your niece think we should teach kids to judge and openly mock people who are different then them?
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