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Old 07-01-2016, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Denver
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There was a recent case where someone witnessing a child abuse didn't do anything to stop.
She called cops but they charged her for not doing anything.
So if a child is being abused, the least is to call authorities.
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Old 07-01-2016, 02:19 PM
 
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You know he can also make a welfare check call to the police and they are obligated to go check on those kids.
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Old 07-01-2016, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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The aura of CPS being all knowing CAN make people hesitate, even if its in their own home and violence is possible.

A friend of mine and her husband adopted two kids from overseas. They took the classes and read the material about how the children were special needs, and had control problems due to parental abuse. But, she said, they just *believed* they could fix it somehow and it would come out well

The girl is getting better slowly. But she'll never be 'normal'. But her brother, who is currenty ten, has now gone into the custody of the state because he is so violent. But inbetween, they tried everything they had, and were worried about they and their daughters welfare due to his threats.

They tried to get help, but under that was a fear that somehow they'd blame them, and they'd lose both. This is the good and bad of CPS. Because they have to investigate if there is a report, people hesitate when there really is a reason. Because their judgement is absolute, and if the family is not 'conventional' but not necessarily bad, the suspicion is there if not 'normal'.

My friend and her husband, after the boy threated them personally, then said he didn't mean it, was just kidding, gave up custody. It still hurt. It hurt them to have to do it too.

It's unknown if he'd have improved if the system had a way to start the intervention earlier. But he'd just have gone to a facility earlier. Even with the resources they had available, they were concerned somehow it would become their failure. I know they are necessary, but I also wonder how many times problems happen with kids which parents don't know what to do, but don't ask for help since we seem fixiated on there being bad parents.

The op's situation is clearly a need for a call, but there is a large grey area where things could be or not. It's not unreasonable for that to factor in on choosing to call or not.

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Old 07-01-2016, 04:38 PM
 
Location: SW Florida
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When it comes to abuse of children, the elderly or animals I would rather place a call and be wrong than not make that call and have a death on my conscious.
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Old 07-01-2016, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Mandated reporting varies by state:

https://www.childwelfare.gov/pubPDFs...=Professionals required to report

Even if complaints to the landlord resulted in eviction for the offensive tenants that would not help the abused children. However, getting CPS involved may make the LL pull the trigger and kick them out.
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Old 07-01-2016, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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The blood has now returned to my face after draining.
Always, always do the right thing when it comes to children, animals and elderly (and most others as well).
That is what CPS is there for and the police as well. Next time don.t wait.
Prep for possible retribution as well: if they are evil to the core, thats how they roll. Drug users don't like attention. Prayer for the kids and pets. I just can.t imagine the noise and stress.
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Old 07-01-2016, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Asking those with kids or at least those used to being around kids, would you call CPS if you were another tenant, or would you just keep to yourself? I, myself, am about ready to call, but wanted to hear from other people first.
You asked those people...how about you ask someone who was a kid who got their ass beat all the time and no one did anything? Let me tell you for those kids what you should do:

Don't just call CPS once, keep calling them, every single time. If you're over there, call the cops, every single time.

Don't be yet another adult who fails them.
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Old 07-01-2016, 08:21 PM
 
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Call the police, tell them what you hear/heard/seen. Police will involve CPS
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Old 07-01-2016, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Harlingen, Tx
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Prep for possible retribution as well: if they are evil to the core, thats how they roll. Drug users don't like attention.
They don't tell them who made the call. I know this because I reported someone once.
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Old 07-01-2016, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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**Posting this in parenting as the issue may be a parenting issue (advice from parents warranted), not so much a renters issue. And calling CPS is no easy thing to do at a whim when you're not sure..


A good friend of mine is going through a horrible situation in their apartment. And we are in debate as to whether or not to contact CPS, due to the things heard/seen/known.

My friend has been in his apartment for about 10 years. Has had a bunch of people come and go of all different types, to different number of people. This one really tops it all.

His apartment is a small, efficiency NO bedroom apartment. The apartment next door is equally the same, but even smaller.

Currently, there are 3 adults, 2 kids (5 & 6 year old), and 2 dogs in the apartment next to him. The landlord apparently is aware of 2 adults and 2 kids, not the other adult or dogs (another tenant complained about the dogs, LL stated the dogs would be gone that day, yet they remain).

The size of the apartment and the number of people isn't what has him or us worrying about the kids. Everyday my friend hears the kids being hit & then hearing them cry. He hears the other neighbors constantly telling the kids they are going to beat their ***. And then continue to do. The hit is hard enough that my friend can hear the slap, as have I when I was over visiting them. And it is constant, not a couple times a day but from the time they seem to wake up, and until they go to sleep.

The apartment size is small which does yield some concern as the kids are in the place practically 24/7, there is a huge fenced-in yard upon the property, and a kids park a couple blocks away. Yet, the kids are stuck inside all the time running around then getting yelled at & hit for being active. One parent works, the other doesn't.

The parents were recently busted by another neighbor/tenant for smoking weed on their deck while yelling & hitting their kids to get the point to not come outside.

In another disturbing, common occurrence, the parents have sex in the apartment while the kids are awake, and running around. And like with anything else that happens, they stop & get up to yell at the kids & hit them for being in their "space".

I have stayed with my friend for a couple of days as I live a few hours away, and was out visiting and have heard a good deal of this. The building houses 5 tenants, 4 of them are holding complaints against these tenants but the LL is doing nothing. They all agree, also, that they feel bad for the kids involved but nothing is getting done. My friend, as I am myself, are wavering on making a call to CPS. We both know times can be tough and people can go through things but this is really topping it. The kids cry all the time and it's not a normal kid's cry, it's wailing and in pain type of cry.

The parents are equally not getting along with each other as there is constant fighting between the two of them. The 3rd adult in the home seems to be the "girlfriend" of the kid's dad. And she stays there while the kid's mom does as well. It's a really messed up situation and we all just wonder and care about the kids.

Asking those with kids or at least those used to being around kids, would you call CPS if you were another tenant, or would you just keep to yourself? I, myself, am about ready to call, but wanted to hear from other people first.
I can not see how that can possibly be legal under city or state housing codes, # adults, two children & two dogs???.

Normally, efficiency apartments are designed for one adult and have a maximum limit of two people (either two adults or an adult and a child). EVERY efficiency apartment that I have ever seen has only had one bed. And usually the bed is a combination bed and couch.

How in the world can three adults and two children even sleep in one bed? And how can they fit two dogs into that tiny place?

Thank you for calling CPS. Now call the city housing department, too.
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